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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2008, 10:48:40 PM »
 :lol

So many other aircraft deserve the attention of HTC vs this thing.
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2008, 10:51:10 PM »
:lol

So many other aircraft deserve the attention of HTC vs this thing.
I can name.... 1... 2... 3...
But I wouldn't mind this being in the next update. Very important fighter. First all metal low wing monoplane with retractable gear. Made up most of the VVS at the beginning of the war.
As far as EW fighters I would like this, the CR. 42, the Ki43 and the Yak 1.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2008, 11:29:25 PM »
PE-2 would probably got tons more use.

LaGG-3 or MIG-3 for that matter.
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 11:33:22 PM »
PE-2 would probably got tons more use.

LaGG-3 or MIG-3 for that matter.
I agree with you on the Pe-2, but not the LaGG-3 and MiG-3... at least the Polikarpov would have a turn radius advantage on 99% of MA planes, the MiG and LaGG would just suck. The MiG is a very sexy fighter though.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2008, 03:10:13 AM »
yer! can we get the I15 as well?

Saw this one last year at an airshow in NZ. Sounded incredible when that radial kicked into life. Sounded like the thing was shaking itself to death very loudly.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2008, 09:59:49 AM »
I can name.... 1... 2... 3...
But I wouldn't mind this being in the next update. Very important fighter. First all metal low wing monoplane with retractable gear. Made up most of the VVS at the beginning of the war.
As far as EW fighters I would like this, the CR. 42, the Ki43 and the Yak 1.

While quite innovative, the I-16 wasn't all-metal, it was of mixed wood, steel tube and aluminum construction. It was the first production cantilever monoplane fighter with retractable landing gear. Most other major nations were flying biplanes (some with retractable gear) or fixed gear monoplanes. Some of those biplanes were nearly as fast as the I-16 when it was first introduced. By 1936, the rest of the major powers had not only caught up, but had surpassed the I-16 in performance or in potential. By the end of 1936, the Spitfire and Hurricane prototypes had flown. Germany was flying prototypes of the Bf 109 and He 112. Curtiss had flown the H75 (prototype that evolved into the P-36, then P-40), Seversky was the flying the SEV-1XP (evolved into the P-35, AP-4 and P-43). By 1938, the I-16 was well on its way to obsolescence.

So, while very advanced for its time, its time was rather short.

All of that aside, it was the Soviet's primary fighter for the first year of their war with Germany. 20,000+ were built, placing among the top most produced fighters. Therefore, it should be added to the game, if for no other reason, for its historical importance.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2008, 07:33:32 AM »
At only 290 mph max, this plane would see little to no use in the MA. Not to mention the guns are awful.
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2008, 09:08:05 AM »
At only 290 mph max, this plane would see little to no use in the MA. Not to mention the guns are awful.

Which is why we should get the Type 24, with two 20mm and two 7.62mm. This variant could attain 326 mph.


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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2008, 10:49:13 AM »
Which is why we should get the Type 24, with two 20mm and two 7.62mm. This variant could attain 326 mph.


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I think you meant Type 28.

I think the Type 28 with the 20mm's would be a competetive furballer and that the Type 24 should be done just for historical puposes as long as they are being done anyway.
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2008, 11:19:28 AM »
I think you meant Type 28.

I think the Type 28 with the 20mm's would be a competetive furballer and that the Type 24 should be done just for historical puposes as long as they are being done anyway.

I have read that Type 24s could be found with Four 7.62 mm ShKAS MGs or the mixed armament of two ShKAS and two 20 mm ShVAK cannon. That said, the Type 28 would be just fine for MA use. I was thinking the Type 24 with the alternate armaments would be better for scenarios, providing I-16s as they generally appeared when Germany attacked, or the cannon armament seen in late 1941, early 1942.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008, 11:33:20 AM »
With this and a matched early 109, a Spanish Civil war would be possible.
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2008, 08:01:31 AM »
The I-16 was quite a popular plane in Fighter Ace 2.0 and 2.5 in the arenas with easy and intermediate flight models.  I flew it a lot, but when I started flying in the Advanced Arena (Realistic arena) I found that it was a handful which stalled easily and violently.

It's popularity there was significantly reduced, but there were some who used its turning ability and violent stall characteristics to their advantage.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2008, 10:00:30 AM »
 :lol
So it's basically an under-armed/under-powered Hurricane 2c?  :noid
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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008, 11:51:51 AM »
Can think of a handful of other Soviet fighters I'd rather see, first.

Although historically significant, I cant see myself taking it up more than once or twice in the LWMA.

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Re: Polikarpov I-16
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2008, 12:55:41 PM »
i thought of this in 07