SIG220's SIG 220 .45 Caliber Pisols!! -- PHOTO

[1cajun]

No stainless here.  Much smoother recoil and better accuracy than the 1911.  Trust me, I have a lot of years with the 1911.

Handload my own Hornady XTP 240 grain jacketed hollowpoints.

[cpxxx]

MADE IN GERMANY :Can't get any clearer than that:lol  I only mention it because our police bought the Sig P226 as the standard handgun for their detectives and our Emergency Response Unit (uniformed officers are unarmed) and it was described as Swiss. Did a quick google and yes Sig were Swiss but they bought Sauer in Germany. Hence the Sig-Sauer.

From the same article it was said that the Dublin gangsters prefer the Sig P226 to the Glock 17 as they found it more 'reliable'  Which, if you think about it is quite important in gangland shootouts:O Somehow, though I don't think that kind endorsement will be used by Sig anytime soon.  But it's useful to know, nonetheless.

[storch]

my son in law has the USP in .45 and I have one in .40S&W that I bought back in 1995.  it too is a fine choice and it's a tack driver at up to 25 meters for me.

That's a mighty fine home defense shotgun.  I have the 590 at home and the 500 in the office at the shop.

a few years back I was in the shop alone working on a project at about 2200 during a weekday night.  the neighborhood where my shop is located is on the wrong side of the tracks consequently the feral types prowl during the hours of darkness but we are well known in the community and most folks don't mess with us.  anyway on this night two zombie types come through the open perimeter gate and approach the open fabrication bay where I was in the back scrolling some sheet to be cut out for a gate at home.  they ask me if I wanted to buy some rock.  I reached for the shotgun and racked the slide.  you want to talk about guys running?  afterwards I went and closed then locked the perimeter gate.  no sense in tempting the devil.

[1cajun]

Nothing quakes the heart like the sound of a shotgun being racked at close range.

[Rich46yo]

I have one of the older 220s. We are required to carry DAO autos and a lot of guys didn't buy the 220 due to the heavy DAO. It doesn't bother me cause it reminds me of the pull on the S&W 686 I carried for years. While it aint a tack driver it is the most dependable semi-auto Ive ever seen.

                             I carry the 200 grn speer +Ps in it but Ive also carried 230 grn Hydras. In my opinion SIG makes the best semi-auto handgun and I would never buy anything but.

                           We have a slew of autos approved for carry now but I'll always stick with SIG.

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by 1cajun
Nothing quakes the heart like the sound of a shotgun being racked at close range.

Two things happen when you rack a shotgun, one; the perp knows your armed, two; the perp knows about where you are. Never think racking a shotgun will necessarily mean the person will flee.

[lazs2]

suave.. yeah.... tanfoglio   they are cz75 copies..  accurate and it is really really easy to switch calibers..  takes about 5 seconds.

I like the trigger on a good 1911 like the Kimber.  hard to beat that.  My Kimber is more accurate than any other 45 I have shot.

recoil on 45's?  you guys are kidding right?   they don't kick at all to me... more like a little push in the hand.

my carry gun kicks..  I mean really kicks.. it is a smith and wesson 340 scandium in .357 with compact wood grips.. the gun weighs 12 oz.

my hands are large and I can't get a good grip on the thing so it kicks me pretty good.   No fun to shoot but the best carry gun I have ever seen.

lazs

[storch]

Originally posted by Shuffler
Two things happen when you rack a shotgun, one; the perp knows your armed, two; the perp knows about where you are. Never think racking a shotgun will necessarily mean the person will flee.

well so far its worked 100% of the time one occasion two running away, besides I never keep a round chambered so I always have to cycle the action.

[Terror]

Here it comes.....

First of all I am not saying a Glock is better then a Sig except in just a few situations.

If you don't to shoot fast. A Sig is fine.
If you don't want to shoot fast and accurate, a Sig is fine.
So please understand there are plenty of folks out there for which a Sig as a perfectly acceptable gun. Generally speaking, the ones that don't shoot, and for sure the ones that don't want to shoot fast and accurately.
The folks that seem to really like their sigs are the ones that talk about owning a Sig alot.

Sigs sit too high in your hand, causing alot of "flip", which pulls the gun up off target much more then other guns.
Second, the trigger pull is LONGGGGGG, and the reset is much LONGERRRRRR. Which makes shooting fast and accurate MUCH harder. And it also causes alot of failures to reset the trigger.
Next, on alot of guns their is a "bump" on the left side of the grip which forces your hands to hold the gun even lower on the grip, which just makes the flip even that much larger.
The "OLD" mags actually use to come apart if you get in a hurry and loaded them into the gun to hard. Gee, and do you think in a gunfight, that MIGHT happen?
And if that weren't enough, they don't even make good paper weights, since they don't lay flat on the paper, but instead rock a bit. See, I was trying to find a good use for them.

And for the privilage of carrying this "sled" you get to pay a HIGH Price Tag.

You see, there is a reason most of the top shooter use a 1911 or a Glock. The egronomics are similar. If a Sig had them, then they would be using them.

And PLEASE don't make the same mistake the gun manufacters are counting on you making. And that is to think because a Law Enforcement Agency carries them, they are good.
I PERSONALLY know Sig almost GIVES them away to the LE Agencies just to bait the civilians into thinking they are good. NOPE SUCKERS. But I guess there enough born to keep it going.

And please before anyone jumps online to brag about how there Sig is awsome. Please ask yourself if you fall into the catagory of shooters I described. If you don't shoot in competition agains others, then you probably don't see how other guns do in the hands of other good shooters. And think this, if you want to win, and can shoot any gun you want to. Wouldn't you shoot the fastest and best? And then go look at what those shooters are shooting to win?

Terror

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by 1cajun
Nothing quakes the heart like the sound of a shotgun being racked at close range.

I think the sound of one being fired would beat that. Hehe  

[wulfie]

Originally posted by Terror If you don't to shoot fast. A Sig is fine.
If you don't want to shoot fast and accurate, a Sig is fine.

blablablabla...

Heh, you tell 'em, Jack Bauer.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Terror
Here it comes.....

First of all I am not saying a Glock is better then a Sig except in just a few situations.

If you don't to shoot fast. A Sig is fine.
If you don't want to shoot fast and accurate, a Sig is fine.
So please understand there are plenty of folks out there for which a Sig as a perfectly acceptable gun. Generally speaking, the ones that don't shoot, and for sure the ones that don't want to shoot fast and accurately.
The folks that seem to really like their sigs are the ones that talk about owning a Sig alot.

Sigs sit too high in your hand, causing alot of "flip", which pulls the gun up off target much more then other guns.
Second, the trigger pull is LONGGGGGG, and the reset is much LONGERRRRRR. Which makes shooting fast and accurate MUCH harder. And it also causes alot of failures to reset the trigger.
Next, on alot of guns their is a "bump" on the left side of the grip which forces your hands to hold the gun even lower on the grip, which just makes the flip even that much larger.
The "OLD" mags actually use to come apart if you get in a hurry and loaded them into the gun to hard. Gee, and do you think in a gunfight, that MIGHT happen?
And if that weren't enough, they don't even make good paper weights, since they don't lay flat on the paper, but instead rock a bit. See, I was trying to find a good use for them.

And for the privilage of carrying this "sled" you get to pay a HIGH Price Tag.

You see, there is a reason most of the top shooter use a 1911 or a Glock. The egronomics are similar. If a Sig had them, then they would be using them.

And PLEASE don't make the same mistake the gun manufacters are counting on you making. And that is to think because a Law Enforcement Agency carries them, they are good.
I PERSONALLY know Sig almost GIVES them away to the LE Agencies just to bait the civilians into thinking they are good. NOPE SUCKERS. But I guess there enough born to keep it going.

And please before anyone jumps online to brag about how there Sig is awsome. Please ask yourself if you fall into the catagory of shooters I described. If you don't shoot in competition agains others, then you probably don't see how other guns do in the hands of other good shooters. And think this, if you want to win, and can shoot any gun you want to. Wouldn't you shoot the fastest and best? And then go look at what those shooters are shooting to win?

Terror

I'll keep my P-220 and my 1911, and you can have all the Schlocks you want.

And no one I know shoots a Schlock as a race gun, either. And yes, I used to carry as a LEO.

[Halo]

Springfield XD .45 ACP.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts


I'll keep my P-220 and my 1911, and you can have all the Schlocks you want.

And no one I know shoots a Schlock as a race gun, either. And yes, I used to carry as a LEO.

Funny, as much as this board has changed over the years it is still exactly the same way in others.

You can always depend on Terror to come into a auto thread and say something to the effect of "dont take this wrong, I am not saying sig make ****ty guns, but they do of course and the mightly glock will own them in every way and sig owners are stupid and just talk about guns and dont shoot them"

IE makes a retard out of himself.

[storch]

while the glock is a fine choice in weapon I personally don't care for them.