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« on: December 27, 2007, 11:52:39 AM »
we need more japanese airplans so we could have the raiden with the 4 20 in the wings and or the adition of 2 upward fireing 20mm also we could have the ki-100 ki-44 shoki also the many japanese bombers like the sally ki-49
also for ground attack the ki-45 toryu and the ki-102
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 11:53:54 AM »
We need to use the search button more. ;)
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 02:17:05 PM »
shutup i know this has been brouth up before just bringing it up agian so people can talk about it again
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 02:30:01 PM »
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shutup i know this has been brouth up before just bringing it up agian so people can talk about it again


You couldn't bring it up in one of the other threads? I am not trying to be rude...
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 02:33:53 PM »
AWESOME, AWESOME idea!

I'll get on it right now!
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 04:19:10 PM »
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AWESOME, AWESOME idea!

I'll get on it right now!

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 04:32:49 PM »
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Nice Approach Scrooge.

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 06:02:26 PM »
Why more japanese planes.Most of them have the same gun pack 2 20mm's their are some that have more guns.

Long story short.All japanese planes do is:Turn,compress,and burn.

no more jap planes unless their bombers.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 06:52:23 PM »
VansCrew obviously needs to read a lot more about Japanese aircraft.

For example, the Ki-44 and J2M are both interceptors with good climbing and diving performance, but average turning capability.

The Japanese fighters we already have do not match his claims, the Ki-61 being quite good at diving and the N1K2-J performing well too.  The Ki-84 dives fine as long as you don't overspeed.

As for guns, the Ki-43-II has two 12.7mm guns, the Ki-44-II has four 12.7mm guns, the J2M3 has two 20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannons (as on the A6M2) and two 20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons (as on the A6M5b and N1K2-J), the J2M3a has four 20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons (as on the A6M5b and N1K2-J).

And once again, we see that the Japanese fighters in AH do not have identical armaments other than the Ki-61 and Ki-84, and even there the positions of the guns are reversed.

A6M2: two 20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannons and two 7.7mm Type 97 machine guns in the cowl.

A6M5b: two 20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons and one 7.7mm Type 97 machine gun and one 13.2mm machine gun in the cowl.

Ki-61-I-Tei: two 12.7mm Ho-103 machine guns in the wings and two 20mm Ho-5 cannon in the cowl.

Ki-84-Ia: two 20mm Ho-5 cannon in the wings and two 12.7mm Ho-103 machine guns in the cowl.


Moving on from that, the performance of the different Japanese fighters in AH vary greatly.  The A6M can kill Huricanes and Spitfires by turning with them, if the Ki-84 tries that it most likely dies.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 07:42:25 PM »
I'm always up for more planes. Just for a suggestion how about the...

A6M3 (x2 Type 97 7.7mm cowling, 2x Type 99 I 20mm wings) or the...

A6M6c (x1 Type 3 13.2mm cowling, x2 Type 3 13.2mm wings, x2 Type 99 II 20mm wings).
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2007, 09:05:37 PM »
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Why more japanese planes.Most of them have the same gun pack 2 20mm's their are some that have more guns.

Long story short.All japanese planes do is:Turn,compress,and burn.

no more jap planes unless their bombers.

:aok
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 09:56:53 PM »
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
Why more japanese planes.Most of them have the same gun pack 2 20mm's their are some that have more guns.

Long story short.All japanese planes do is:Turn,compress,and burn.

no more jap planes unless their bombers.

:aok


So, by what your saying we can out 80-90% of the allied planes, Because they have similar gun packages? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 11:06:00 PM »
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I'd put the Tony up against your B n Z'ing Pee40 anyday of the week.   I'm not even a "self-proclaimed hot shot" either.    

You've got a lot to learn yet.    You'll be decent one day, you aren't capable of it yet.

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 05:07:22 AM »
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A6M6c (x1 Type 3 13.2mm cowling, x2 Type 3 13.2mm wings, x2 Type 99 II 20mm wings).


A6M5c.

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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 04:57:47 PM »
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A6M5c.


I'm up for either, the A6M6c had a few key diffrences from the 5c such as the much needed self sealing fuel tanks and water/methanol injection boost(WEP). But the 5c was likely built in higher numbers, so give or take on that one.
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