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Offline FrodeMk3

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2008, 08:54:02 PM »
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**** that ****.  Why are the competent always expected to pay for the failures?  



No one is entitled anything.  **** them if they didn't get the neo-natal care they wanted.  If they want a better life, better health care, THEN THEY HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.  It's ****ing ridiculous that they even expect a single cent of money of which they have not earned.


Laser, at this point, I have to ask, Who is paying for your College education?

Because in some instances, what you are saying, could be applied directly back to that. Even if you have a scholorship.

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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2008, 10:31:30 AM »
since myelo seems to be the only person capable of articulating (or regurgitating) and the others use it as an excuse.

The vote is indeed to pick the winner.   It is beyond rare that we get to know much less pick the best man.

We are stuck with party lines.   the candidates work along party lines... only...

the partys themselves morph over the years.  I have seen it.   right now.. the democrats are the party of socialism and fawn over your-0-peean "culture.

The republicans are not much better but.. it is a huge difference.   it manifests itself not only in their voting and law making but in their all important appointment of judges.

I guess that in the strictest sense.. no vote is wasted.   An individualist or conservative is not wasting his vote on some independent... he is voting for billary or osamabama.  it is not really "wasted".

He is asking that the least conservative and most socialist candidate have a clear shot...

the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face" keeps coming to me as I see some of the posts by the so called conservatives here.

As proof..  I would point out to you that the socialists and lefties on this board are the ones egging you on and telling you how right and sensitive and full of honor and conscience you are.

They will of course.. be voting for the democrat no matter what.

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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2008, 10:41:18 AM »
When the rubber hits the road I will of course vote for McCain over either possbile democrat. Doesn't mean I can't moan and groan over it though. I also threatend to leave the country if Hillary is elected but so far I haven't found a better place to go.
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2008, 10:47:05 AM »
agree.

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2008, 11:12:46 AM »
You guys might also take a long hard look at your gun collections and right to carry and ask yourself... "which of these guns will billary or osamabama let me keep?"

the answer of course is... none of em... not if they could have their way.   they agree with the UN...  the UN thinks that no gun that shoots over 100 yards should be allowed.

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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2008, 11:14:46 AM »
I'm gonna buy a couple more guns and plenty of ammo before the election and move to Idaho. :)
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2008, 11:28:42 AM »
Romney won the Maine caucus  yesterday despite BOTH of Maine's rino senators endorsing McCain---Ron Paul was a hair behind McCain---21-19% (There is apparently some sort of news blackout regarding any possible good news for Romney, as I only found this on http://www.Townhall.com) current delegate count has McCain up 93-77, with a Reuters/Zogby poll showing Romney up in Kalifornia, and McCain cant even win a majority of Republicans in his own state. McCain will likely win it, but its certainly not as over as msm makes it out to be
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« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2008, 11:33:59 AM »
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You guys might also take a long hard look at your gun collections and right to carry and ask yourself... "which of these guns will billary or osamabama let me keep?"

the answer of course is... none of em... not if they could have their way.   they agree with the UN...  the UN thinks that no gun that shoots over 100 yards should be allowed.

lazs


I have yet to lose my guns no matter who is in power.
A gun takeaway program just won't happen regardless of the party in power unless we're talking an extreme totalitarian dictatorship.
That's not going to happen anytime soon outside of Hollywood.
I'm more concerned about government spending and balancing the budget.
So far the both parties have been big on deficit spending, the Republicans more so.
Does the National Debt mean anything to you?
Going the direction we are headed, your gun problem will be down on your list of things to worry about.
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2008, 11:37:43 AM »
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I have yet to lose my guns no matter who is in power.
A gun takeaway program just won't happen regardless of the party in power unless we're talking an extreme totalitarian dictatorship.
That's not going to happen anytime soon outside of Hollywood.
I'm more concerned about government spending and balancing the budget.
So far the both parties have been big on deficit spending, the Republicans more so.
Does the National Debt mean anything to you?
Going the direction we are headed, your gun problem will be down on your list of things to worry about.


I guess you don't live in DC. Since they have in fact taken away people's right to have a gun there I guess you would agree it is an "extreme totalitarian dictatorship"?
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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2008, 11:56:38 AM »
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I guess you don't live in DC. Since they have in fact taken away people's right to have a gun there I guess you would agree it is an "extreme totalitarian dictatorship"?


Did they force the citizenry to turn in their guns?
How did they enforce this?
San Francisco tried a gun ban. I don't think it 'took'.
I live in Califorinia so the gun laws are tougher than most elsewhere. I still have my guns.
Some of you are looking in closets chasing shadows. Looking under the bed for the bogeyman.
All the while not realizing that your govt has been bending you over and giving it to you REGARDLESS of whether it was controlled by Republicans and Democrats.
We're like the frog in the pot of water with the ever increasing temperature.
My concern is not only stopping this terrible deficit spending but bringing it to where we don't have a deficit.
You think the republican or democrat front runners will do this?
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2008, 12:01:10 PM »
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Well that is the reply of an extremely uneducated person.  

People don't choose to be born into poverty.  But they unfortunately are, even here in the U.S.A.  Like I said earlier, your tax dollars are going to pay for them one way or another.


And this is the reply of an unthinking socialist.

They CHOOSE to stay in poverty.  The world is full of rags to riches stories.  There is no longer any excuse for staying poor.  That is except for laziness.

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Laser, at this point, I have to ask, Who is paying for your College education?

Because in some instances, what you are saying, could be applied directly back to that. Even if you have a scholorship.


I'm paying for my education.
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2008, 12:06:36 PM »
They forced them to disable their guns making them unusable for self defense. They did this by law making anyone not complying a criminal. Just because you call those who earnestly seek to strip you of your gun ownership right the "bogeyman", does not mean they aren't very real. If not for those fighting for your right to own a gun over the last few decades I have little doubt that you would be a criminal if you insisted on keeping what you have.
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2008, 01:04:52 PM »
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They forced them to disable their guns making them unusable for self defense. They did this by law making anyone not complying a criminal. Just because you call those who earnestly seek to strip you of your gun ownership right the "bogeyman", does not mean they aren't very real. If not for those fighting for your right to own a gun over the last few decades I have little doubt that you would be a criminal if you insisted on keeping what you have.

Not talking only guns, but since you want to focus on it...
Well let's see here, real world, real results.
The vaunted Republican machine controlled the Presidency, Congress, and the Senate. Hmmm, DC still had their stupid anti-gun law(State thing, right).
We've had out of control deficit spending.
The Republicans are good for me, how?
I'm not asking you about the democrats as you support the republicans.
Name the last Republican President that proposed to Congress a balanced budget?
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2008, 01:26:48 PM »
Ya'll can probably guess where I stand on the "wasted vote" topic...  Suffice it to say, IMO you're being USED.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is this:  I sure hope your gun collections give you comfort when the US goes bankrupt.

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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2008, 01:30:26 PM »
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Ya'll can probably guess where I stand on the "wasted vote" topic...  Suffice it to say, IMO you're being USED.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is this:  I sure hope your gun collections give you comfort when the US goes bankrupt.


No, no, no! You got it all wrong! As long as we got our guns, everything is fine and dandy!
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