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Offline toonces3

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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #345 on: March 11, 2008, 09:22:07 PM »
A CV that was hit by bombs and burning would not continue to poop out F4Us.

As posted above:
It would be simple enough (I think) to coad the CV such that a certain amount of damage was equivalent to dropping the fighter hangars.  This would yield the CV essentially out of the fight for a period of time.

During Midway (I think) the Yorktown took several bomb hits but remained afloat and damage parties were able to patch the flight deck so the carrier was able to conduct flight ops.

Such a coading would render the CV vulnerable for a period of time, say 15 minutes, from enemy bombers/attack planes without any additional fighter support coming from the CV.

At any rate, I don't think HTC is going to re-coad the game based upon Toonces' recommendations, but if we're looking for ways to curb dive-bombing the CV with heavies, then coading the game such that such dive bombing can't 'kill' the CV is the only method to fix it....excepting an attitude shift among the more clueless in the community (yes, wezy, this means you).  Somehow I don't think the attitude thing is the way to approach the problem (if it is a problem...)
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #346 on: March 11, 2008, 09:29:57 PM »
RE:Latrobe;"I see you skipped step 8 on here"

Gee I didnt go watch your little youtube thingee,,,
just tell me what ur thinking,,,

OHMan did I offend you,,,? :frown:
Am I in trouble????? :D  do u know some of the Big Muky Muks ???  :uhoh
Get a grip,,, thats grip not gripe   take a deep breath,,, relax

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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #347 on: March 11, 2008, 09:37:58 PM »
As posted above:
It would be simple enough (I think) to coad the CV such that a certain amount of damage was equivalent to dropping the fighter hangars.  This would yield the CV essentially out of the fight for a period of time.

During Midway (I think) the Yorktown took several bomb hits but remained afloat and damage parties were able to patch the flight deck so the carrier was able to conduct flight ops.

Such a coading would render the CV vulnerable for a period of time, say 15 minutes, from enemy bombers/attack planes without any additional fighter support coming from the CV.

At any rate, I don't think HTC is going to re-coad the game based upon Toonces' recommendations, but if we're looking for ways to curb dive-bombing the CV with heavies, then coading the game such that such dive bombing can't 'kill' the CV is the only method to fix it....excepting an attitude shift among the more clueless in the community (yes, wezy, this means you).  Somehow I don't think the attitude thing is the way to approach the problem (if it is a problem...)

I am certain the naval damage control and fire fighting could do wonders, but I think that all flight operations would cease until the fire was put out. I think the best point made here is that the CV model is at least as unrealistic as the lancstuka model. It just depends whose ox is being gored.
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #348 on: March 11, 2008, 09:39:00 PM »
NO no no you're not in trouble.......yet  :devil .

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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #349 on: March 11, 2008, 09:46:46 PM »



   "In my opinion, a suicide run in a P-51 to hit troops or ords is as dweeby as a suicide run with level bombers against a CV."

Wasn't supposed to be suicide. I tried to pull up, honest injun.
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #350 on: March 11, 2008, 10:12:55 PM »
IT JUST A OPINION I DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BE A INTERNET FORUM JUNKIE......

AS FAR AS LANCSTUKA OR WHATEVER YES I AGREE THAT 17S LANCS HECK EVEN ORDS OR THE WAY WE CAN CARRY YTHEM OR DELIVER THEM CAN CHANGE...IVE STATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN I REALLY DONT CARE IF I DELIVER THE EGGS TO THE KITCHEN...WE LEAVE WITH THE INTENT TO KILL AS MANY FIGHTERS AS WE CAN KILLING A CV OR A HANGER OR THE VIDEO STORE IN THE TOWN IS JUST THE ICEING ANYWAY...

I SHOULD MAYBE READ A LITTLE MORE OF THESE POST I GUESS.CHECK MY STATS ON WHAT I FLY I HATE 17S AND LANCS ANYWAY.DO I HIT CVS LOW IN 26S HECK YES I DO BUT ITS NOT A SUICIDE RUN I USUALLY LIVE WELL AT LEAST FOR THE SHOOT OUT AFTER WORDS.
IM JUST TRYIN TO REMIND SOME IT IS A GAME.....MY APOLOGIZE TOONCES3   DIDNT MEAN PILOTS SHOOULD BE ASHAMED JUST THAT WE ARE INTERNET GAME PILOTS IN AH2 NOT REAL LIFE FIGHTER JOCKS....

AND I WILL GET 999000 TO POST A THREAD ON HIS THOUGHTS OF LANCS DIVE BOMBING.....BUT IM SURE IT WILL GET A BASH OR 2 ALSO REMEMBER THERE WAS A LONG THREAD ON FORMATIONS AND THERE GUNS...SOMETHING LIKE 1 PIOLT 1 GUN I THINK

AND I AM GOING TO ASK BUT IF I CALCULATE CORRECTLY IM GUESSING I WONT GET A ANSWER SO DEATH TO ALL CVS YOU WANT THEM UP MOVE THEM OUT!!!!!!
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #351 on: March 11, 2008, 10:20:42 PM »
Why are you yelling?
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #352 on: March 11, 2008, 11:11:10 PM »
im on my soap box thats y
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #353 on: March 11, 2008, 11:25:40 PM »
Both dive bombing with level-bombers and the external view aiming exploit need to be squashed, caps lock or not..
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #354 on: March 11, 2008, 11:25:49 PM »
If you kids would do a little reading on WW2 you'd find P51s were used in straffing missions. Many times 51s escorted bombers in and then were released to find "targets of opportunity". 51s were used in Korea to hit ground targets as well as corsairs.

Most of the original post of this thread has holes all in it.
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #355 on: March 11, 2008, 11:57:20 PM »
nerf the caps beotch
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #356 on: March 12, 2008, 12:09:58 AM »
never mind. 
« Last Edit: March 12, 2008, 12:14:10 AM by toonces3 »
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #357 on: March 12, 2008, 01:29:59 AM »
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #358 on: March 12, 2008, 02:40:09 AM »
See Rule #2
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Re: Suicide bombers and why
« Reply #359 on: March 12, 2008, 03:18:47 AM »
Ohhhh Skuzzy is going to go postal Jedi on those nice big caps.:rofl
I think this deserves an IN :lol
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