Author Topic: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road  (Read 2655 times)

Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #105 on: June 24, 2008, 07:48:01 AM »
Wrong.

The "Keep right to pass" or "Impeding the flow of traffic" statutes DO NOT nullify the "Exceeding the posted speed limit" staute.

So long as you are at the posted speed limit, there is no reason you must move right (barring Emergency Vehicle or courtesy).

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must be different in your part of the country..

Here its keep right cept to pass no matter what speed your doing.
doesnt matter if your ding the speed limit.
Ride in the left lane just for the sake of riding i the lane and you WILL get a ticket for

"Faliour to stay to the right" in NJ

I think I found the reason fo the big debate.
Different states are set up differently

"State "keep right" laws
You may use the left lane (when there is more than one lane in your direction) to pass. You may or may not be able to use the left lane when not passing. The table below describes the law in effect in each state.

A few states permit use of the left lane only for passing or turning left. These have "yes" in the "keep right" column. Six states require drivers to move right if they are blocking traffic in the left lane. Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the normal speed of traffic (regardless of the speed limit; see below). These are listed as "slower", with an asterisk and an explanation under "comments" if vehicles lawfully using the left lane must yield to overtaking traffic. A few states either do not require vehicles to keep right ("no"), or permit vehicles moving at the speed limit to drive in the left lane regardless of traffic conditions ("<SL").


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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #106 on: June 24, 2008, 07:48:44 AM »
just move over and let them pass.

why? If i'm in a queue of traffic moving at 5mph and a 911 or something comes up behind me, should I and the rest of the queue all move over just because he has a few more HP? I dont get it. 1 guy blocking the road, sure, but thats not the case here is it.
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #107 on: June 24, 2008, 07:52:23 AM »
and even at 85, the majority of the traffic is going past me.
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Sounds to me like your spending some time on the GSP

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #108 on: June 24, 2008, 07:54:03 AM »

why? If i'm in a queue of traffic moving at 5mph and a 911 or something comes up behind me, should I and the rest of the queue all move over just because he has a few more HP? I dont get it. 1 guy blocking the road, sure, but thats not the case here is it.

As I heard a local radio broadcaster once say to the very same type of question.

"Who designated you as the roving roadblock"?
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #109 on: June 24, 2008, 08:03:10 AM »
my shop is in cherry hill, just off of 295. i live in lindenwold. i'm about 3 miles from the John F Kennedy Hospital in stratford.
 i fly out of south jersey regional airport in mount holley......

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Ahh Bout 45 min to an hour from here.
We're gong to have to get together to terrorise the locals one of these days
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #110 on: June 24, 2008, 08:21:26 AM »

why? If i'm in a queue of traffic moving at 5mph and a 911 or something comes up behind me, should I and the rest of the queue all move over just because he has a few more HP? I dont get it. 1 guy blocking the road, sure, but thats not the case here is it.

they're talking at highway speeds not in a traffic jam
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #111 on: June 24, 2008, 08:33:50 AM »
"Who designated you as the roving roadblock"?
that would be the 20 vehicles in front of me all going slower than I intend to. of course as soon as I get tailgated, the guy behind me is the roadblock. getting it yet?
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #112 on: June 24, 2008, 08:38:20 AM »
Well, nice to see this is turning into a real controversy. The advice is well appreciated, as are all of the priceless comments.

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #113 on: June 24, 2008, 08:40:31 AM »

why? If i'm in a queue of traffic moving at 5mph and a 911 or something comes up behind me, should I and the rest of the queue all move over just because he has a few more HP? I dont get it. 1 guy blocking the road, sure, but thats not the case here is it.

He did not say he was in a queue.... i.e. traffic was moving and it's the law...slower traffic keep right!
Here not moving over will get you a ticket (right now I think it's € 130)

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #114 on: June 24, 2008, 08:46:45 AM »
He did not say he was in a queue.... i.e. traffic was moving and it's the law...slower traffic keep right!
Here not moving over will get you a ticket (right now I think it's € 130)



Not sure what the difference is between a  queu and column of cars running at a similar speed is in your mind, but yes, I was restrained from accelerating freely by the guy in front of me, who was, likewise, by the guy in front of him, and so on. Traffic was approaching an uncomfortable density, but we were moving at around 75, and at that speed, I like to leave at least several car lengths of space between my bumper and the one in front of me--as would most sober drivers. It was the bikers' intention to squeeze us all out, one by one. Some yeilded faster than others.

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #115 on: June 24, 2008, 08:50:39 AM »
Not sure what the difference is between a  queu and column of cars running at a similar speed is in your mind, but yes, I was restrained from accelerating freely by the guy in front of me, who was, likewise, by the guy in front of him, and so on. Traffic was approaching an uncomfortable density, but we were moving at around 75, and at that speed, I like to leave at least several car lengths of space between my bumper and the one in front of me--as would most sober drivers. It was the bikers' intention to squeeze us all out, one by one. Some yeilded faster than others.

THE only thing restricting you from accelerating to your chosen speed was you. you could've moved into another lane.

i like how all of you non-riders(i'm assuming you don't ride by your reaction towards them) assume that all of those of us that do ride are looking for trouble.
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #116 on: June 24, 2008, 08:54:02 AM »
THE only thing restricting you from accelerating to your chosen speed was you. you could've moved into another lane.

The other lane was moving even slower. There was a gap there, which I ended up occupying. Not long after moving into it, I had to slow down or move back into the left lane.

I never said anything about riders, in general, looking for trouble. Crotch-rocket enthusiasts who ride aroud in groups, often doing in excess of 100 mph on public freeways tend to stick out, but even that is an extreme example and not characteristic of the group as a whole. If anything, I would assume that smart, mature riders are more conscious of safety than car drivers--given the level of dangers they must face when contending with vehicles many times their mass.
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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #117 on: June 24, 2008, 08:54:18 AM »
The least good the guy at the wheel/handlebars, the quicker you ought to let him by.  If you don't like him near your car/bike, the quickest solution is to let him by.  Just like in martial arts.. Don't fight with their momentum, use it against them.  It's more efficient.

Spit will wash off the car with the wipers and some wiper fluid.  If your self esteem has spit on it, that's another matter :P

I agree Moot. This weekend I was coming back from the Adorondaks and caught rain. Generally people in cars don't care that your on two wheels, on a wet road, going the speed limit or alittle over. So most cars will ride your hind end. Basically I move over to the shoulder and wave them through. It takes the pressure off me and lets them go as fast as they deem necessary.

I wont't even get into cars with smokers chucking lit butts out the window when you're behind them..... :mad:

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #118 on: June 24, 2008, 08:54:53 AM »
That stuff works alot better on defence then on offence. Or as a surprise move

Bunch of years ago some hotshot tried attacking me with a jump kick to the head.
fortunately he telegrpahed it and I saw it comming
I caught his leg held it up,
He fell on the ground, while still holding his leg up, I stomped on his nuts real hard with the right heel of my engineers boot.

After that he didnt wanna play Hai-Karate anymore.
He did however feel like puking.

I did however witness one of the crazier friend I had jump up and kick two people inthe face at the same time.
Damnedest thing I ever saw.

Was the beginning of a hell of a brawl too

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Re: How to deal with jerkoff bikers on the road
« Reply #119 on: June 24, 2008, 09:00:04 AM »
Quote
hen spits on the windshield.
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I didn't read all 8 pages so I dunno if this has been already covered but....WTF???
Are you sure it wasn't a bug? I ride...ALOT and spitting at 70+mph and actually hitting the windshield of the car next to you as you pass....honestly i cant see that happening. unless you moved back in behind them. I got a bug in my teeth "once and only once" and spit that out, it went maybe 3 inches in the slip-stream and them was gone baby gone.
AS a member of the biker community and a member of a club ( The Marine Motorcycle Brotherhood) I have had to deal with some 1%'ers. Some its been a respectful toleration and a couple its been something like what you experienced.

They give all bikers a bad name but, just like everything else the biker community has its good, its bad and its down right smurfy...per the rules i wont pics of the smurfy but im sure everyone can find em.

As for the left lane thing....I think thats been pretty well covered so ya dont need my 2cents on that.

We all could use a lil more tolerance out on the highway, to much road rage and not enough courtesy.
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