Abortion is one thing but this?

[bj229r]

No.
Im saying you used a right wing website to support a right wing view.
Particularly a website that on its face seems to be positioning itself to be unbias with names like "Media research Center" "NEWSBUSTERS"
Then it exposes itself as being a right bias media with the term
“Exposing & Combating Liberal Media Bias”
Not exactly an unbias source.
Right wing media bias is as bad as left wing media bias.
Why not just report without bias. Or expose the bias on both sides?
That would kinda add to their credibility more.

Can facts have a bias?

[Fishu]

Your choice not to read it. My niece was born premature and because of modern medicine she is alive. So your good with murdering a child. ]
Right, now I know where you stand.

In the future we can continue growing a fetus in a jar. We'll be also able to create childs from the get go in a jar. There really has to be a fair limit to abortion regardless of the modern medicine, because eventually the chance for abortion would be nil - anything would survive. This is the same reason why I'm for euthanasia as well. For the elderly the modern medicine will eventually be nothing but years of torture on the brink of death. For the women it will limit their options against unwanted pregnancy, which could result in an unwanted child (or the parent could be unable to upkeep a child financially) and that's not a good thing on the long run. You don't wish a bad childhood for anyone.

[Bronk]

Can facts have a bias?

Only if its conservative.

[SuBWaYCH]

I support abortion, to an extent. I think if a women is raped she should have the choice of if she wants to have the child or if she does not want to have that child. But, I do think if you want an abortion on a child that was purposely created, I don't think that should be allowed. It was the couples choice, they should have to live with it.

[Bronk]

In the future we can continue growing a fetus in a jar. We'll be also able to create childs from the get go in a jar. There really has to be a fair limit to abortion regardless of the modern medicine, because eventually the chance for abortion would be nil - anything would survive. This is the same reason why I'm for euthanasia as well. For the elderly the modern medicine will eventually be nothing but years of torture on the brink of death. For the women it will limit their options against unwanted pregnancy, which could result in an unwanted child (or the parent could be unable to upkeep a child financially) and that's not a good thing on the long run. You don't wish a bad childhood for anyone.

Well you'd have to plan on growing that fetus now wouldn't you. So now you want to grow em just to abort them? Kinda throws that whole unplanned thing right out the window now doesn't it.

[Nilsen]

So now you want to grow em just to abort them?

Hehe now that sounds like the masterplan of an evil genious.

[lazs2]

fishu.. please tell me how you would determine if a fetus will have a good life or not.

Do you use the climate computers or something special?

lazs

[Apeotomy]

If you can look a child in the eye and tell them youre not "good" enough for life your a monster.

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html

[DREDIOCK]

Can facts have a bias?

They can be spun that way to amplify a point out of proportion
Both sides do it.

Again I have NOT looked deeply into this issue. so I dont know how accurate it is..or isnt or if there were other mitigating factors or not.
It may be very well 1,000,000 % accurate
Again I DONT KNOW.

But a left or right wing site that puts forth a story that is only spun their way I view with an eye of suspicion.
I'd feel the same way if CNN came out with a similar story on McCain. or Palin and "troopergate" for example.

They are only going to tell the story in a way that makes the other side look at its worst.
Thats not to say eithr side will lie.
They just tend to leave some of the details out.

[DREDIOCK]

In the future we can continue growing a fetus in a jar. We'll be also able to create childs from the get go in a jar. There really has to be a fair limit to abortion regardless of the modern medicine, because eventually the chance for abortion would be nil - anything would survive. This is the same reason why I'm for euthanasia as well. For the elderly the modern medicine will eventually be nothing but years of torture on the brink of death. For the women it will limit their options against unwanted pregnancy, which could result in an unwanted child (or the parent could be unable to upkeep a child financially) and that's not a good thing on the long run. You don't wish a bad childhood for anyone.

I'll have to look for the story.
But I remember reading a while back that we are scientifically on the verge of creating life from scratch.

Now THAT is going to make for some interesting arguements.

[Apeotomy]

I am pretty sure that in theory we can grow an "life" in a jar in theory but keeping the life sustained is the problem.

[AKIron]

We teach our children not to hit or hurt other children (at least some of us do). We insist that adults don't hurt or murder other adults too. Should we respond to adults killing their unborn children any differently?

For those who hold life in low regard it's simply a matter of choice and any busy body who would tell them otherwise must be a religious fanatic seeking to impose their own will and morality. For those who consider life the ultimate gift it's something that must be protected while innocent and unable to yet exercise it's own free will from those who are ignorant or irresponsible.

[Bronk]

We teach our children not to hit or hurt other children (at least some of us do). We insist that adults don't hurt or murder other adults too. Should we respond to adults killing their unborn children any differently?

 

They are killing BORN children.

[moot]

Which would mean God wouldn't give a crap whether we do abortions or not.

I don't see how you go from what I said to that.

Then again the 10 commendments are pretty much there to prevent people from doing horrible things to each other.

Horrible is an anthropomorphism.  I think the commandments are more like guidelines, ideals for man to reach for.  Better is the enemy of good, etc.

[Gunthr]

I hesitate to prod an old dog laying dead beside the road... but

In the future we can continue growing a fetus in a jar. We'll be also able to create childs from the get go in a jar. There really has to be a fair limit to abortion regardless of the modern medicine, because eventually the chance for abortion would be nil - anything would survive. This is the same reason why I'm for euthanasia as well. For the elderly the modern medicine will eventually be nothing but years of torture on the brink of death. For the women it will limit their options against unwanted pregnancy, which could result in an unwanted child (or the parent could be unable to upkeep a child financially) and that's not a good thing on the long run. You don't wish a bad childhood for anyone. - Fishu

Fishu, with all due respect, the devalueing of human life is what we have come to expect from countries with socialist tendancies and Finland has built one of the most extensive welfare states in the world.  Once you make the decision that not all human life is equal, and embrace casual abortion as a national policy, euthanasia becomes an easy extension of that.  I wonder where that path will eventually take your country...  maybe those decisions will one day be made centrally, by buearaucrats.  No thanks.