Black 6 crash cause?

[glock89]

You mean like the lieing liar Eric Brown? I say that the English don't tell the truth, and you quote me an English!

Get 10 sources, and you probly get 10 different stats anyways.

[Angus]

You mean like the lieing liar Eric Brown? I say that the English don't tell the truth, and you quote me an English!

Get 10 sources, and you probly get 10 different stats anyways.

Was thinking more like Jeffrey Quill and such, - a distinguished test pilot who both was dogfighting 109's with LW pilots at the steer as well as flying them himself.
Or LW sticks like Gunther Rall who was primarily a 109 pilot, but also flew captured aircraft from the Allies in mock fights against 109's....
And about landing events when a squadron of land based Hurricanes (no tailhook, no naval experience) was landed on a British carrier (shorter than U.S.) without a mishap...
Yes, I am telling you to read up. That "LIES" crap reminds me of Izzy, and I raise you with the word "IGNORANCE"

[Schlowy]

Furball is the only player taht I was able to look up data on, mostly he flies f4u's, but he does have some time in 190a8s... rest of you guys hide your bias. Post your game id so we all can see what you fly.

Glock89, Angus... wth is your id, what do you fly?   

[Angus]

Used to fly as Angus, not more.
Nowadays normally as Daimler
Fly offline tests as well.
Favourite aircraft is the Spit VIII at the moment, but the Macchis sometimes give me a blast. Some bombings as well. Missions are usually quite suicidal

[Bronk]

. Post your game id so we all can see what you fly.

ERROR: Player Schlowy did not fly in Late War Tour 104

[glock89]

Furball is the only player taht I was able to look up data on, mostly he flies f4u's, but he does have some time in 190a8s... rest of you guys hide your bias. Post your game id so we all can see what you fly.

Glock89, Angus... wth is your id, what do you fly?   

Ummmmmmm it 666. 

[Golfer]

[Stang]

I fly 109's most of the time.  I have no problem spanking any spitfire I run across.  What's the problem with them again? 

[Angus]

The problem might be that I'm not behind the stick 

[Schlowy]

Stang, you're worthy of me repeating this stuff.
The probs with 109s? Compression off the top, the rest of the stats are questionable, lack of credible sources. In todays world, with computers and new electronics, testing that plane would be much more definitive, even if we had Russian and French judges... (the 04' olympics) 

The prob that we're talking about though is that this 109 can no longer be tested for the very stats in question. Just because 109s tend to kill their opponents, or go against b24s and b17's, they are more likely the planes to be returning to land with a little damage. Hence they sometimes have to 'ditch.' But these guys are trying to say that 109s are accident prone when landing. The truth is that all ya have to do is not jam the throttle back and forth too quickly (considering such a powerful engine and low weight plane) and ya won't flip, like this 'professional' did, whom we are sure did all of his homework on the plane before ever getting into it. Seems he also forgot how to operate the radiators... And we are expected to believe this was an 'accident.' Well, if so, he accidentally saved the worlds view of England, had any testing results shown that the plane was better than their 1001 documentaries report. 

Now, what part don't ya understand? Did I go too fast for you? About your 'aceship' maybe the rest of us don't have scaling set up yet. Besides, its not like your call sign is Messer or Schmitt, yours is Stang! 

[glock89]

Stang, you're worthy of me repeating this stuff.
The probs with 109s? Compression off the top, the rest of the stats are questionable, lack of credible sources. In todays world, with computers and new electronics, testing that plane would be much more definitive, even if we had Russian and French judges... (the 04' olympics) 

The prob that we're talking about though is that this 109 can no longer be tested for the very stats in question. Just because 109s tend to kill their opponents, or go against b24s and b17's, they are more likely the planes to be returning to land with a little damage. Hence they sometimes have to 'ditch.' But these guys are trying to say that 109s are accident prone when landing. The truth is that all ya have to do is not jam the throttle back and forth too quickly (considering such a powerful engine and low weight plane) and ya won't flip, like this 'professional' did, whom we are sure did all of his homework on the plane before ever getting into it. Seems he also forgot how to operate the radiators... And we are expected to believe this was an 'accident.' Well, if so, he accidentally saved the worlds view of England, had any testing results shown that the plane was better than their 1001 documentaries report. 

Now, what part don't ya understand? Did I go too fast for you? About your 'aceship' maybe the rest of us don't have scaling set up yet. Besides, its not like your call sign is Messer or Schmitt, yours is Stang! 

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?

[Schlowy]

Glock89,
In that statement you imply that I am smoking a mind altering drug... you 'beg the question' that I am smoking something.
You also 'beg the question' that my post has no intelectual thought because of the implication that I smoked something.
You also 'attack the person instead of the argument.'
Three falacies in one statement, Shame on you.

Verbally attacking a player is in roc. So is attemting to create 'flame'. So is overly using smilies icons.
Three roc's in one statement also... Shame on you twice.

Bronk
In game i'm schlowy3

Can we get back to topic now?

[Furball]

Schlowy, I don't mean to be rude but I think you need a bit more practice in game before you can make an accurate assessment on the 109s in Aces High.  They can be very good, but they are not the sort of plane a new guy can easily pick up in a short space of time.  You may want to try spending a bit longer in the 109F - that is a brilliant plane.  As is the 109G2.  Give it a go and see how you get on, i suspect you may be more successful in that before progressing onto the later 109s.

You gotta remember too that lots of us have been playing AH for years - it is not an easy learning curve.

I think you need to step away from the keyboard for a bit too...

Good luck <S>

[Schlowy]

You mean the learning curve that a hurri with 3k higher alt pwns?
You mean the curve that an La7 can do its supposive 'topspeed' for its whole fligth instead of 1min probly?

The only real learning curve is learning the modeling. And every version of these games has different modeling! Even the AW1,2,3 and AH1,2 are different.
I don't mean to be rude either but you don't know my background either.

*Edit, i looked your stuff up for 'kills in' you fly some luft sometimes, compare to Lynx, he hates luft, hundreds of kills but none in any 190, 109, 110... Glock and Angus here won't say their names, but they attack and jumble up the thread... they attempt to bury the truth. Prove me wrong Angus, Glock89, put your game call sign.
Mine is Schlowy3, I'm pro-luft yep, but i'm no liar.

[Furball]

You mean the learning curve that a hurri with 3k higher alt pwns?
You mean the curve that an La7 can do its supposive 'topspeed' for its whole fligth instead of 1min probly?

The only real learning curve is learning the modeling. And every version of these games has different modeling! Even the AW1,2,3 and AH1,2 are different.
I don't mean to be rude either but you don't know my background either.

In answer to the above: -

Any aircraft with a 3k alt advantage and a decent pilot should 'pwn' you.

All aircraft can run continuously at full power.

I don't need to - it is a different game.  Playing Warbirds/Air Warrior/Whatever else does not automatically mean you will be good at AH.