Spitfire wing tips

[SgtPappy]

Oh there are clipped wing Spitfire VIII's.

Some served in Italy. I have some pics in Late Marque Spitfire Aces, but picture hangar isn't working.

Guppy has the same book, he can scan it for us 

[OOZ662]

Then use something else, like Photobucket.

[Guppy35]

Oh there are clipped wing Spitfire VIII's.

Some served in Italy. I have some pics in Late Marque Spitfire Aces, but picture hangar isn't working.

Guppy has the same book, he can scan it for us 

Almost missed it.

Two clipped 8s from the MTO, one a senior officer's bird.  I'd like that one in my garage thanks

[Old Sport]

From a game play perspective I could see clipping the Mk V's wing for a little variety, but not the whole lineup of Spits.

[RTHolmes]

just out of interest I asked a squaddie who's company restore/remanufacture spits and they are never asked for clipped or extended tips for any mark. we suspect this is just for aesthetic reasons (for many people the eliptical wing defines the spitfire.)

[Karnak]

The flying razorbacked Mk XIV has clipped wings in some shots and full wings in others.  I have never seen a restored Spit with extended wingtips.

[Kev367th]

The flying razorbacked Mk XIV has clipped wings in some shots and full wings in others.  I have never seen a restored Spit with extended wingtips.

I 'believe' all the wartime clipped XIV's were FR XIV's, they had to be clipped, something to do with wing roots wrinkling!!!!

[Bronk]

Almost missed it.

Two clipped 8s from the MTO, one a senior officer's bird.  I'd like that one in my garage thanks

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ooohhh thinking MK XVI with extended range.....the whine to be had. 

[SgtPappy]

The wing root wrinkling problem was fixed with the addition of the double (but in some cases singe) reinforcement bars or 'ribs' just seen outboard of the landing gear bulges atop each wing, running parallel to the fuselage. This was an occurrence more common in the dive-bombing Spitfires.. like the IX/XVI. Strangely enough, this Mk.II restoration has it:


Extra fuel? Hm .. it would stop uneducated P-51 afficionados from saying how much better the slower accelerating, worse climbing Mustang was compared to the Spitfire because of its range.

[Guppy35]

In terms of restored Spits, the tendency is to go with full span wings for the slow speed handling.  There are a few clipped birds, but many of the 16s flying that came from the factory with clipped wings now have full span added during their restorations, again for the slow speed handling and safety.

Many Spit restored also have the larger rudder added even though they had the smaller version when first from the factory.  Again it's handling and safety.

[Guppy35]

The flying razorbacked Mk XIV has clipped wings in some shots and full wings in others.  I have never seen a restored Spit with extended wingtips.

The only Spit still surviving with extended wing tips is the Spit VII at the NASM.  Of course it's the only surviving Spit VII too, so I guess it figures

[SmokinLoon]

Sorry but that is the most assinine argument yet.

By that argument then you shouldn't be able to fly a Spit one sortie, a Pony the next, then a Buff, then maybe jump into a tank, as that didn't happen either.....in real life.

You can also if you like change skins EACH sortie, geez I bet that happened all the time.......in real life.

You are missing the entire point of my argument.  Either you have not read or you too shallow to soak up all that has been argued.  Let me see if I can spell it out for you ... slowly...  ...

My argument is against simply swapping out wing tips on a specific Spitfire model as pilots see fit "between sorties".  It didn't happen in WWII.  Wing tips were swapped out when unit roles changed or they arrived that way from the factory. 

You speak if a whole spectrum of things that didn't happen in WWII (swapping paint jobs, changing planes, etc)... learn to differentiate the difference between gameplay and model specifics.  I am not advocating to change the game play so once you fire up the Spit8 when you sign up you cant fly something else until you create a new account.  I'm not advocating only to be able to have one paint skin for that entire account either.  Those are game play specifics, not plane model specifics.  When you hop from one plane to the next or swap out the skin of a plane for another the base model of the plane stays the same.

Hold fast your tongue before you call something "assinine" for as you made it clear 'tis your lack of comprehension and reason skills that have made you a product of your accusation.     

[Kev367th]

You are missing the entire point of my argument.  Either you have not read or you too shallow to soak up all that has been argued.  Let me see if I can spell it out for you ... slowly...  ...

My argument is against simply swapping out wing tips on a specific Spitfire model as pilots see fit "between sorties".  It didn't happen in WWII.  Wing tips were swapped out when unit roles changed or they arrived that way from the factory. 

You speak if a whole spectrum of things that didn't happen in WWII (swapping paint jobs, changing planes, etc)... learn to differentiate the difference between gameplay and model specifics.  I am not advocating to change the game play so once you fire up the Spit8 when you sign up you cant fly something else until you create a new account.  I'm not advocating only to be able to have one paint skin for that entire account either.  Those are game play specifics, not plane model specifics.  When you hop from one plane to the next or swap out the skin of a plane for another the base model of the plane stays the same.

Hold fast your tongue before you call something "assinine" for as you made it clear 'tis your lack of comprehension and reason skills that have made you a product of your accusation.     

I'll make it easy - It would be NO different from having 2 SEPERATE Spit V's (or whichever one) in the game, one clipped, one full span. You would just choose from the hanger which 'version' you wanted.

[Furball]

I'll make it easy - It would be NO different from having 2 SEPERATE Spit V's (or whichever one) in the game, one clipped, one full span. You would just choose from the hanger which 'version' you wanted.

I was trying to say this earlier, but i do not think he understood.  He can't get around the thought of ground crews removing wingtips or modifying aircraft between sorties.

Perk option to remove wingtips on those aircraft which had them in service would make sense to me - more variants represented with minimal fuss.  But then of course there are all sorts of complexities with different rated engines etc.

[SmokinLoon]

I'll make it easy - It would be NO different from having 2 SEPERATE Spit V's (or whichever one) in the game, one clipped, one full span. You would just choose from the hanger which 'version' you wanted.

Having two entirely seperate models would be the better way to do what is being suggested, that way if you want the Spit V w/ clipped wings for dive bombing then the ord packages would be avilable for that version and not the Spit V with the tips for the air to air... otherwise we'll have hybrids that were not actually used.  Swapping wing tips in the hanger is not condusive to keeping the models accurate, imo.  No sense in making each Spitfire a hybrid like the Spit16 is... were not most of the Spit16 equiped squadrons assigned an attack role, do we see much of the air to ground Spit16?       

Oh and Furball, it isnt that I refuse to accept that the ground crews didnt change the tips, it is the fact that they did not do those changes between eqach and every sortie.  Those changes were made... again... when the unit changed roles and not per pilot descretion each and every sortie.