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White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« on: January 12, 2009, 09:33:59 AM »
1 dead, dozens injured in Gaza by suspected white phosphorus munitions

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-phosphorus12-2009jan12,0,2138761.story

Big deal or not a big deal??? I think war should be waged all out no matter what. Any time you leave anything behind you create a bigger problem down the road.

Although there apparently was an agreement in 1980 on prohibiting its use on civilian populations. However in a situation like Gaza you really can't control where the enemy is and where it isn't so its a moot point to me.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-051116-rferl03.htm
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 09:36:35 AM »
  That stuff in among civilians is nasty, but thats the price of waging guerrilla warfare. Who is the civilians?

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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 09:44:44 AM »
The LA times article of course mentions many different names which all sound Arabic to me.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 10:07:51 AM »
People only worry about it because it appeared on TV. If it wasn't filmed not a word would have been said. A cynical view but probably true.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 10:19:06 AM »
Civilians?? Which ones are those? They live among the combatants and do not point them out, makes them just as bad.

Funny you see less "concern" when the rockets were coming from Gaza as opposed to going into. It's nice to see a country not ran by a bunch of pansies. Here in the US they would sit on their hands. They would not want to upset anyone.

It's sad that anyone in this day and time wants to poke another in the eye. But there are evil folks all over the world.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 10:33:19 AM »
Civilians?? Which ones are those? They live among the combatants and do not point them out, makes them just as bad.

Funny you see less "concern" when the rockets were coming from Gaza as opposed to going into. It's nice to see a country not ran by a bunch of pansies. Here in the US they would sit on their hands. They would not want to upset anyone.

It's sad that anyone in this day and time wants to poke another in the eye. But there are evil folks all over the world.

LOL! I'd like to see you pointing fingers in Gaza with armed-to-teeth combatants hiding next door. Not only you but your whole family will get beheaded in a snap.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 10:42:30 AM »
It's nice to see a country not ran by a bunch of pansies. Here in the US they would sit on their hands. They would not want to upset anyone.
I think you are wrong. The US would not have waited 8 years if rockets were flying over from, lets say, Mexico. Mexico would have gone up in smoke while "embedded" reporters would be taken out for a spin in the desert, to take pictures of dust (best trick ever). Heck, even if the US didn't know who attacked it, some random country was attack for it... err.. I meant would be attacked....
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 10:44:33 AM »
LOL! I'd like to see you pointing fingers in Gaza with armed-to-teeth combatants hiding next door. Not only you but your whole family will get beheaded in a snap.

Then I guess you'll have to put up with the airstrikes hitting your house.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 10:58:19 AM »
LOL! I'd like to see you pointing fingers in Gaza with armed-to-teeth combatants hiding next door. Not only you but your whole family will get beheaded in a snap.

If you can't then move. If you stay you put your family at risk. It is not Israel's fault. The are protecting their own. Would be up to you to do the same.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 11:03:30 AM »
I read about this yesterday on BBC ,





 here"s a movie also,  must be one of those 155mm shell , but who knows what's loaded with, looks like some burning material , maybe it's  used for smokescreen only.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7823078.stm

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 11:05:19 AM »
I agree with bozon it took way to long for the politicians here to understand people living in bomb shelters is not acceptable.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 12:31:35 PM »
I honestly could care less. I was generally asking if and when those items were outlawed.

I personally like the way the Romans dealt with waging war...to the victor goes the spoils and that includes the slaves as well. When they beat a tribe (what 90% of all the "wars" they fought then were at that time) or series of tribes they took the non-combatants into slavery and sent them off to other parts of the empire. That was to create an easier place to rule over and settle for their people instead of constantly having to fight all the time.
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »
They kill people in war?


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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2009, 12:45:09 PM »
LOL! I'd like to see you pointing fingers in Gaza with armed-to-teeth combatants hiding next door. Not only you but your whole family will get beheaded in a snap.

ya, because the combatents are watching you 24/7.  :rolleyes:
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Re: White Phosphorus munitions a bad thing????
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2009, 12:47:58 PM »
Funny you see less "concern" when the rockets were coming from Gaza as opposed to going into.

yup, thats because they are hardly a threat. deaths inside Israel from rocket and mortar attacks 2001-2008: 17. thats about 2.5 a year. deaths from paracetamol use in Israel per year: about 40.

I'm not saying its not frightening, just saying that you have less chance of being killed by a Hamas rockets in Israel than ... pretty much anything else.
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