Flight model abuse / grievance

[Babalonian]

All this talk about buffs has me hankering for some buff hunting tonight.

[humble]

Well, in real life the Norden bombsight was supposed to be accurate enough from 30,000ft.


ack-ack

Clouds, variable wind conditions at multiple altitudes. historically all the buffs hit from that alt is the ground. No such thing as "precision" bombing from 32k....

[Yeager]

On mission 115 dated October 14, 1943, two hundred twenty one B17 forts reached Schweinfurt and two hundred twenty released their bomb loads.  Altitude between the three air divisions varied between twenty and twenty four thousand feet.  Fifty three percent of all bombs dropped landed within one thousand feet of the aiming point of the primary target. One large concentration of at least forty bursts was located in a wooded area 3.5 miles South East of Schweinfurt.

taken from the pages of "Black Thursday" by Martin Caidin

[Ack-Ack]

Fifty three percent of all bombs dropped landed within one thousand feet of the aiming point of the primary target. One large concentration of at least forty bursts was located in a wooded area 3.5 miles South East of Schweinfurt.

And that was considered precision bombing.  Sure is a long ways away from what we have now with bombs hitting within meters of their target.


ack-ack

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd actually like to thank Krusty for his post.













































I really needed a good laugh. 

[1pLUs44]

in an FSO, I was doing like 350 at about 35k in a 152. The one where it was the 2nd BoB.

You just gotta get up there, and get speed up, I think one of our squaddies even went to like 40k before it started to quit.

[moot]

~41k is the optimal level speed altitude. It takes over 20min to go from 180IAS to top speed flying level.

[Sincraft]

I don't have to look at the film Krusty, I know you're a good stick.  Flew with you when I started as a knight.

So if you have a problem with it, there probably is an issue.

There are major issues with the flight characteristics of many planes in this game. 

Arguably the worst modeled plane is the Spit16...it's the very reason why I quit the game for months.  Kills me not to fly it as I've always had a love affair with spits, but can't cheat like that.

[Stoney]

There are major issues with the flight characteristics of many planes in this game...the Spit16...can't cheat like that.

 

[chewie86]

ROFL

somebody  need high alt training   

wtg mates!

[Vudak]

I can't remember the last time someone complained that a guy was trying to stay alive in his bombers. 

[RTHolmes]

none of this alters the fact that closure rates in AH are way lower than IRL, which is especially noticable in BoB scenarios with the 88s. the difference between full/mil power and max cruise in 88s is about 30mph - thats the difference between a Spit I and a Spit IX/VIII 

[CAP1]

did they actually hit their targets from that alt? i thought htc had wind drift modeled in?

if they want to spend the time to climb a set of b17's to 30k+, then let em. who really cares? ya follow em, and kill em when they come down..which they have to do sooner or later.

 now, if you were talking about a b17 performing an immel, and not losing his drones.........

[Anaxogoras]

none of this alters the fact that closure rates in AH are way lower than IRL, which is especially noticable in BoB scenarios with the 88s. the difference between full/mil power and max cruise in 88s is about 30mph - thats the difference between a Spit I and a Spit IX/VIII 

Yes, but as Widewing already said, fighters in AH get to fly at full power all the time too, so the lack of realism goes both ways.

Tell me again why you all don't want more sophisticated engine modeling?

[Wingnutt]

did they actually hit their targets from that alt? i thought htc had wind drift modeled in?

the game supports wind, but it stays turned off.  there have been numerous threads asking.. begging to turn it on.