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Re: Star Trek 2009
« Reply #195 on: May 29, 2009, 07:03:30 AM »
This is her. Diora Baird

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Diora Baird did not play in Star Trek; Uhura's roommate, the Orion redhead, was played by Rachel Nichols, who coincidently will be portraying Scarlett in the new G.I. Joe movie this summer.



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« Reply #196 on: May 29, 2009, 05:27:16 PM »
I think Starfleet's chain of command needs a little work after seeing this film.   :lol

Good movie overall though.

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« Reply #197 on: May 29, 2009, 09:00:42 PM »
Ok, I've never watched the show....  Did this actually happen in the show??  If so, I'm buying the entire DVD set..... :rock

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« Reply #198 on: May 29, 2009, 10:52:19 PM »
I saw it today. I thought the guy playing Kirk over did the bad boy act a bit. Yeah the chain of command thing was really trashed. The main queen of the fleet and the best they can put on it is midshipmen from the academy?!?!?!

Overall, not a bad movie and worth the price of admission, once.
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« Reply #199 on: May 30, 2009, 12:37:16 AM »
mccoy was spot on.

best one out of the bunch.
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« Reply #200 on: May 30, 2009, 06:18:04 AM »
mccoy was spot on.

best one out of the bunch.

Hells yeah. As soon as he walked onto the shuttle craft and started talking, I turned to my GF (who'd already seen it and convinced me to go see it) and just said "Let me guess- Bones?". He nailed him.  :aok
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« Reply #201 on: May 30, 2009, 06:42:15 AM »
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« Reply #202 on: May 30, 2009, 03:34:16 PM »
I saw it today. I thought the guy playing Kirk over did the bad boy act a bit. Yeah the chain of command thing was really trashed. The main queen of the fleet and the best they can put on it is midshipmen from the academy?!?!?!

Overall, not a bad movie and worth the price of admission, once.

I'm with you.

I think it had a lot of incredible widescreen shots, like when the shuttles were leaving the abandoned ship in the beginning of the film and when the shuttles were heading to the fleet from Earth.

But...

I thought the plot was weak.  Captain Nero's revenge was insanely implausible and unjustified.  So Spock volunteers to try to help save Romulus with an unproven red matter technology (That apparently you need a giant red sphere of, when a tiny drop will do the trick) and unfortunately fails to help?  I don't understand why Nero blames Spock.  Spock didn't create the supernova, I didn't see anybody else step up to the plate to try to help.  If Spock hadn't tried to help, Romulus would have got destroyed all the same.  It would have made more sense for Nero to fly his mining ship to Romulus in the past and warn them about the future.  Of course there wouldn't have been a movie then.  The whole thing made very little sense. 

Does anybody else have a problem with this?  Should the audience ignore obvious plot holes for the sake of a fun movie that is created as a result of the plot holes? 

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« Reply #203 on: May 30, 2009, 03:51:14 PM »
Does anybody else have a problem with this?  Should the audience ignore obvious plot holes for the sake of a fun movie that is created as a result of the plot holes? 

Hollywoods been doing it for the past 100 years or so, why stop now?
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« Reply #204 on: May 30, 2009, 05:31:57 PM »
Given that theory they coulda went back in time and Fixed Khans wagon before it even started.Kirk can go back in time to save wales but not his son? ya cant over think these things  :aok
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« Reply #205 on: May 30, 2009, 07:28:41 PM »
I'm with you.

I think it had a lot of incredible widescreen shots, like when the shuttles were leaving the abandoned ship in the beginning of the film and when the shuttles were heading to the fleet from Earth.

But...

I thought the plot was weak.  Captain Nero's revenge was insanely implausible and unjustified.  So Spock volunteers to try to help save Romulus with an unproven red matter technology (That apparently you need a giant red sphere of, when a tiny drop will do the trick) and unfortunately fails to help?  I don't understand why Nero blames Spock.  Spock didn't create the supernova, I didn't see anybody else step up to the plate to try to help.  If Spock hadn't tried to help, Romulus would have got destroyed all the same.  It would have made more sense for Nero to fly his mining ship to Romulus in the past and warn them about the future.  Of course there wouldn't have been a movie then.  The whole thing made very little sense. 

Does anybody else have a problem with this?  Should the audience ignore obvious plot holes for the sake of a fun movie that is created as a result of the plot holes? 

First of all, there is a 4 issue comic book series(Count Down) that sets up the movie(http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown)..  All is explained there...
While the movie does not necessitate reading these to know what's going on, certain things make better sense after reading them....  Certain scenes of the film were also cut
to make it stay under 2.5 hours (they'll be included on the DVD as extra scenes or whatever)..  Anyhow, there's a fairly good synopsis of the entire 4 issues at the link I provided..
Hopefully it will make a little more sense after reading, but I'm sure there will still be questions.. 




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« Reply #206 on: May 30, 2009, 08:20:03 PM »
I don't see how any possible back story could explain Nero not going to Romulus to warn and prevent the future catastrophe, but instead blaming the entire federation for something that hadn't happened.  His love for Romulus is so great that he would want to make everybody pay for its future destruction except not great enough to ACTUALLY use his knowledge to save Romulus.  Makes no sense.  Must be a very interesting back story if it can explain THAT.   :lol I will have to read it.

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« Reply #207 on: May 30, 2009, 08:44:07 PM »
It's not that far fetched. Plenty of people will damn and focus their angst against a whole group when one of them has done something seemingly characteristic.  IIRC in the movie, Nero says he can do better than change the future.. Just do away with the Federation altogether.
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Re: Star Trek 2009
« Reply #208 on: May 30, 2009, 08:48:25 PM »
Given that theory they coulda went back in time and Fixed Khans wagon before it even started.Kirk can go back in time to save wales but not his son? ya cant over think these things  :aok

Kirk didn't save Wales. Not even Sean Connery could do that.  :)

They definitely could have done with a better story, but it was quite entertaining and even had a half naked green chick.  :aok
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Re: Star Trek 2009
« Reply #209 on: May 30, 2009, 08:51:36 PM »
It's not that far fetched. Plenty of people will damn and focus their angst against a whole group when one of them has done something seemingly characteristic.  IIRC in the movie, Nero says he can do better than change the future.. Just do away with the Federation altogether.

How will that save Romulus?  The Federation didn't create the Supernova...

And how is it the Federation's/Spock's fault in the first place?