Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16

[Kazaa]

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[caldera]

So you leave it in the hanger because in the right hands, according to what you guys are saying it can smoke most other planes in the MA. And flying it just because you like it, isn't fair to the other player's who like to fly there favorite rides that or inferior to it. That some how doesn't seen fair to the guys who like it just because its a spitfire and it may be there favorite plane of WW2. A well known player in this game told me one time that the plane he fly's in the game, he would fly that plane even if it was the worst plane in the game. And in his opinion, it just so happens that the plane he fly's is superior to all other plane's in the game hands down.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this guy's favorite plane just happens to be "superior to all the other planes in the arena hands down." OK. I'm convinced.    Funny how no one's favorite plane is the worst plane in the game. Fly whatever you want. If you are flying for other people's respect, you won't get it flying the 16.

[Karnak]

I clarified.

[BnZs]

What it means Kazaa is that you take a Spitfire when dedicated to actually fighting, and something else when you want to hit and run away. Now, that may sound harsh, that may sound unfair, you may say "I killed many a man in fair combat in my Tempest, K4, or P-51, no doubt this is true. But in reality, the *only* thing those three planes really do better than a SpitXIV is run away. Really, since the Tempest is perked, it doesn't come into consideration, the same can be said for the F4U-4, which no one disputes is the best plane in the game. Certainly you took stupider risks and jumped into situations you would have avoided in your P-51 while you were in the Spit.

Furthermore, you fail to factor in that the AHII main is not "real life fighter piloting", that K/D is not everything for we who play in a sim. No one really dies, and there is no attrition in the MA.Let us look at three possible factors that can influence the choice of what is the most effective in an MA fighter: Score, "controlling airspace" to the end of defending/taking bases, and fun.

 K/D is only one factor in someone's fighter score. K/S, K/T, hit%...all must be cultivated if the goal is fighter score. Of these, kills/time is widely considered to be *the* most telling as regards a player's real effectiveness as a fighter pilot, and by extension, should be considered when we are trying to determine what the most effective fighter planes are.

Attrition does not count in the MA, control of airspace does. The SpitXIV is better suited to do that than something that is simply good at running away.

The final factor fun: Simply put, anyone in a SpitXIV can build up respectable k/d, and arespectable score in general, while taking more risks and using alot less discipline than someone building up an insane k/d in a P-51 or D9.

Here's is a list of my top 3, K/D ratio, tours.

Who would like to tell me what this means ?

BF109K4.

Tour 85: K/D=26
Tour 84: K/D=19
Tour:111: K/D=18

P51-D.

Tour 111: K/D=37.5
Tour 106: K/D=34
Tour 85: K/D=29.25

Spitfire Mk. XVI.

Tour 90: K/D =13
Tour 102: K/D = 12.11
Tour 111: K/D = 11.87

Spitfire Mk. IX.

Tour 82: K/D=13
Tour 105: K/D=13
Tour 96: K/D= 12

Tempest

Tour 64: K/D=64
Tour 47: K/D=47
Your 109: K/D=37

F4U-4

Tour 80: K/D=19
Tour 85: K/D=18
Tour 110: K/D= 15.4

[Cajunn]

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this guy's favorite plane just happens to be "superior to all the other planes in the arena hands down." OK. I'm convinced.    Funny how no one's favorite plane is the worst plane in the game. Fly whatever you want. If you are flying for other people's respect, you won't get it flying the 16.

His favorite plane just happens to be the F4U, all flavors!


And you know after all this and thinking about whats going on here, everything that is being considered is in the chance you get into a 1vs1 fight. You know where you usually run into the spit 16.....you got it furballs. And what do you have at furballs, the high pickers, the slow turners and the yaks and La-7's zooming threw. The spit16 just fits somewhere in the middle of all that, so IMO unless you run into one in a 1vs1 fight, which very seldom happens, its still subject to getting picked or out turned.

[Spyder]

I watch post after post, thread after thread come up and it always comes down to the spit 16 being a newb ride, a dweeb ride or more experienced players shouldn't fly it. I would like to know, who do you guys feel is eligible to fly the spit 16, I never hear anyone say the spit 16 should only be used by ____________? I fly it, I'm not a newb or a dweeb, I fly it because it is one of the most versatile planes in the game. It has a good turn (not the best), it has good climb (again not the best), it has good acceleration (not the best) and it has good roll but again (not the best). And in the opinion of most players in the game the hog is the most versatile plane in the game, but you never hear anyone talk about that ride being unacceptable. I don't find it any easier to fly then any of the other spits , in fact I find that the spit 9,5 and seafire or probably a lot more forgiving and though the spit16 is faster it's not winning any races low, medium or high. So please, I'm asking, who do you guys feel should be flying this plane??   

If you fly it, your a dweeb 

It is the Newb plane because EVERYONE flys it, and everyone gets kills in it. The F4U is different because you need atlease a little bit of skill to fly it well.

[BnZs]

So you leave it in the hanger because in the right hands, according to what you guys are saying it can smoke most other planes in the MA.

No, you take it because it is a *free plane, unregulated plane, which everyone else can fly, which you *will encounter* in the MAs in large numbers*. Like any other weapon, once it is widely available, you either arm yourself with it or find yourself at an inherent disadvantage. That is why the *one* thing you will never do is see me run-down anyone, vet or noob alike, for flying a SpitXVI as much or as little as they want.

[BnZs]

If you fly it, your a dweeb 

It is the Newb plane because EVERYONE flys it, and everyone gets kills in it. The F4U is different because you need atlease a little bit of skill to fly it well.

This actually doesn't seem quite logical. In an environment chock-full of SpitXVIs, isn't at least a *little bit of skill* required to deal with the *other SpitXVIs* to get and land kills?

[Cajunn]

you know I should of never started this thread, because debates like this only make people say "I wonder what all the fuss is about" then you end up with 10 or 15 more spixteen's in the MA 

[Masherbrum]

If you fly it, your a dweeb 

It is the Newb plane because EVERYONE flys it, and everyone gets kills in it. The F4U is different because you need atlease a little bit of skill to fly it well.

Hogs are just as easy to get kills in.    Actually, the Hog is a more forgiving platform in it's own right, to me anyways.   AKdogg had me roll a U4 last Tour for the first time ever.   I landed a few pelts on consec. hops.   

[Kazaa]

If you are flying for other people's respect, you won't get it flying the 16.

I�m British, Spitfire is part of my culture. I can still remember talking to a WW2 Spitfire pilot about the plane when I was a child. My first R/C plane was a Spitfire� I can go on and on�

The comment you made about �flying for other people�s respect� made me lol IRL, I seriously hope your joking. I couldn�t give a toss about what a single player in AH2 thinks of me, I have the ability and knowledge to fly any plane better then you could possible dream of.

[Masherbrum]

I�m British, Spitfire is part of my culture. I can still remember talking to a WW2 Spitfire pilot about the plane when I was a child. My first R/C plane was a Spitfire� I can go on and on�

Your comment about respect made me lol IRL, I really hope your joking about �flying for other people�s respect�. I couldn�t give a toss about what a single player in AH2 thinks of me, I have the ability and knowledge to fly any plane better then you could possible dream of.

Spot on you banana!       J/K bro.    I'm the same way, if I make friends in here (I've made and met many) awesome.  If not, no big loss for me.   

[caldera]

I�m British, Spitfire is part of my culture. I can still remember talking to a WW2 Spitfire pilot about the plane when I was a child. My first R/C plane was a Spitfire� I can go on and on�

The comment you made about �flying for other people�s respect� made me lol IRL, I seriously hope your joking. I couldn�t give a toss about what a single player in AH2 thinks of me, I have the ability and knowledge to fly any plane better then you could possible dream of.

   This whole thread is about respect. It's about crying "nobody likes me when I fly the 16. They're all mean to me. Boo-hoo.  "

Your statement about your "ability" and "knowledge" is laughable. How many WWII planes have you had the privelage to fly and master?

If you don't care what anybody thinks, then why bother with the vitriolic reply?

[Cajunn]

 The F4U is different because you need atlease a little bit of skill to fly it well.

It doesn't take any skill to get kills in an F4U, if you can fly it up to 15K and point the nose down on a furball and have enough since to not let it get slow, you can pick a furball to death. It takes some skill to slow it down and fight in a stall fight, that's the truth, your involving throttle control and flaps. But if your just after kills I can ring them up all day over a fur ball.

[Kazaa]

caldera

Your statement about your "ability" and "knowledge" is laughable. How many WWII planes have you had the privilege to fly and master?

Please don�t pretend that we are talking about RL here�

If you don't care what anybody thinks, then why bother with the vitriolic reply?

Because it's the truth.