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Offline whels

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generation kill
« on: May 27, 2009, 10:59:45 AM »

Good show, love the ending of the series, when they guy says
some things at the end.

http://www.hbo.com/generationkill/

love the ending speach in the credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7pEJts19E

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Re: generation kill
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 12:10:49 PM »
Honestly...I didn't think much of GK.

I think it had a whole lot to do with the attitudes of the soldiers.  I've heard people compare the show to Saving Private Ryan.  Well, from a character standpoint I liked the characters in SPR....I didn't find much to like about any of the characters in GK. 
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 12:15:58 PM »
I loved the show.


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Re: generation kill
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 12:59:47 PM »
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 01:21:43 PM »
November Juliet?

Is that way cool too?
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 05:16:40 PM »
GK was about as close as I've seen a show get to how we acted in the Corps....







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Re: generation kill
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 12:02:00 PM »
I need to watch the show to see how realistic it is but I can tell you that the book was outstanding from my point of view.  The book hit the nail on the head describing the life of the front line Marines during the initial push.  I have a few Recon buddies that say it's realistic to what they went through.  I wasn't Recon but I can tell you that those guys are hilarious to be around, even more fun that your run of the mill Grunt.


love the ending speach in the credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7pEJts19E

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Re: generation kill
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 01:55:45 PM »
bad acting, bad dialoge, and bad action sequences compared to a show like band of brothers.

They lost me after two episodes.

I'm waiting for "The Pacific" to come out, spielberg and hanks surely will not dissapoint.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 02:22:25 PM »
bad dialoge

If you've ever spent any time around Marines in the field, you'd know that dialogue was spot on.  Most realistic depiction of deployed Marines that I've seen.  Great book, pretty good adaptation for HBO, and extremely entertaining.  Most people probably would never conceive that Marines sit around and talk about topics like they did in the movie, but they do--all the time. 

BTW, that speech in your second clip wasn't in the series.  There was, however, a textbook SEAD Non-Standard radio transmission after either the first or second episode that spun my head--sounded exactly like what we used to teach.  The technical detail and accuracy in that show was as good as any I've seen from Hollywood.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 02:32:02 PM »
Stoney,

the speech was in my version i saw on HBO. It played after they watched the guys film on the lap top. It played when credits
started rolling.

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Re: generation kill
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 02:44:06 PM »
Hmmm...  Ok.  I didn't remember that.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 02:45:37 PM »
ahh no wonder I had never heard of it. HBO limited release.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2009, 04:54:56 PM »
If you've ever spent any time around Marines in the field, you'd know that dialogue was spot on.  Most realistic depiction of deployed Marines that I've seen.  Great book, pretty good adaptation for HBO, and extremely entertaining.  Most people probably would never conceive that Marines sit around and talk about topics like they did in the movie, but they do--all the time. 

BTW, that speech in your second clip wasn't in the series.  There was, however, a textbook SEAD Non-Standard radio transmission after either the first or second episode that spun my head--sounded exactly like what we used to teach.  The technical detail and accuracy in that show was as good as any I've seen from Hollywood.

I didn't doubt that it wasn't similar to a realistic marine conversation, just thought that since the acting was pretty poor the dialogue in turn wasn't really great. Not trying to put the marine corps down, but I just didn't really like the way this was made, I am comparing this to band of brothers, which may not be fair since that was such a top notch production. I just thought this series seemed very amature compared to it.

Maybe bad dialogue was an unfair statement, just bad acting, that made the dialogue bad, I'm a tough critic lol. I do have a friend who makes independent films and I help him out whenever possible, gives you a whole new view on films, basically you study every aspect in much more detail.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 06:39:25 PM »
Band of Brothers was certainly more polished--no doubt.  It needed to be, given the subject matter.

The best thing about Generation Kill was that it had a very unpolished, gritty feel to it, just like the book.  The book communicated how chaotic and fast-paced the OIF land operation was; how confusing many of the situations they faced were; how there were many occasions when the guys were not comfortable at all with what they were doing.  I thought the manner in which they made the series matched that.  There was no real theme music, just the crypto chirp and transmissions of a SINGCARS radio.  The credits almost looked like an afterthought, you having just been thrust out of whatever confused situation the platoon was in during the episode.

What I'll say is that if I was to make a "war movie" based on my own experiences in the Marine Corps, it would look and feel and sound a lot more like Generation Kill than Band of Brothers--on purpose.
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Re: generation kill
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2009, 07:51:54 PM »
Great thing abuot this show is Fruity Rudy... he is played by.. the actual soldier in the book cause they couldn't find an actor to play his part as well. Interesting to see him acting out everything the way it happened. Must've been crazy for him to see it all again... also i couldnt believe it when I saw it, I thought the guy was just some character.