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Offline Siphi

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Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« on: May 31, 2009, 01:45:40 AM »
on any plane how far and range does can the bullets fly to hit the planes? 1k? 800 k?

on the gun field whats the maximum range?

wirbelwind?

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Offline Cajunn

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 02:00:47 AM »
Depends on the gun the plane is armed with,

50cal/1K
20mm/1k (but shorter ranges like 400yrd and under or preferred)
30mm/ (I would suggest 300yrd and under)
WW/ 1.5K max
soft guns/field guns 2.5K max
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 02:05:34 AM »
You can hit planes out beyond 1k with your guns but there are a number of factors that detract from your effectiveness the farther out you go.

Machine guns for example rely on velocity to cause impact damage. The farther out you shoot from, the less damage they will cause because they've slowed down with distance.

I rarely shoot outside of 400 yards, and usually within 200.
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 02:16:10 AM »
The 50 cal, 20mm and 30mm disapear past 1.5k, the wirble wind is the same thing, and the field gun I have heard rumors of hits at 12K and I personnally have shot down planes at 6K (bombers)

I think that the 37mm gun on the ostwind goes to 3k

The best range for all of these guns is about 400, 200 if you are a bad shot

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 02:41:53 AM »
My ACM allows me to get within yards of my target. It has nothing to do with aiming ability.
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 03:12:11 AM »
I have never hit anything outside 2.5k in a field gun and killed it, and Scotch is right how far they go has nothing to do with how far you can hit with them. They can go out 10k but the effective range is still only going to be within 400yrd IMO (plane set).



Oh and 2.5k in a field gun I considered a lucky shot!
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 03:14:52 AM by Cajunn »
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 03:52:00 AM »
Scotch is right how far they go has nothing to do with how far you can hit with them. They can go out 10k but the effective range is still only going to be within 400yrd IMO (plane set).

That's not what Scotch said. He mentioned kinetic energy in round damage.

Any round impact equation in AH can be expressed thusly:

Weapon caliber + (distance to target * muzzle velocity) + HE round yes/no.

You can have something like a 37mm field ack, fire a lucky shot at 4k, and still have enough of the equation on the "plus" side (weapon caliber mainly) to cause a kill shot.

What Scotch said, though, is that once ACM becomes second nature, it doesn't make sense to rely on quirks to augment that kill equation, because getting in close for the kill is pretty darn easy. If you can minimize the distance of your shot, you have a better chance of dealing a critical blow. Conversely, if you spray at long range, you can work out the above equation yourself and see that your chances of getting a kill are far fewer.

The moral of the story is that your ACM, not your gunnery, is quite often the most important factor in getting a kill.


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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 08:06:55 AM »
I shot down 2 lancs passing directly over my field at 6k in a man ack.

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 11:28:04 AM »
on any plane how far and range does can the bullets fly to hit the planes? 1k? 800 k?

on the gun field whats the maximum range?

wirbelwind?

sorry if theres a post like this already and thank you so much!

Heres a short easy answer, in a plane almost any range is possible, BUT if your shooting over 400 yards out your wasting ammo.

GVs that have 50cals and cannons are about the same, Ostys and field guns 1000 is your limit...other wize again your wasting ammo.

Like I said, and other have mentioned, other ranges are "possible", but not very probable.

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 11:40:10 AM »
manned field guns are 40mm, not 37..   ive hit bombers at 4.5k yards many times,  3-3.5k regularly

its impossible to waste ammo in a field gun..
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 12:54:47 PM »
Heres a short easy answer, in a plane almost any range is possible, BUT if your shooting over 400 yards out your wasting ammo.


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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 04:43:48 PM »
Quote from: The Fugitive
Ostys and field guns 1000 is your limit...other wize again your wasting ammo.

Not necessarily so...I have made many kills in Osti's and Field guns beyond 1.5K. But in saying that, I usually never fire at a target that is going across my field of view. I have hit or shot down bombers at 2.5K + coming toward me or going directly away from me. Osti's can do a great job at 1.5K or less and can (most of the time they do) kill a target with one ping. This includes a moving target going across my line of sight.

The Wirble is another story. It ain't worth crap over 1K. Granted, you might hit the target, but damage is usually minimal. If and when I am in a Wirble I won't pull the trigger unless it is at least 1000 or less. The M16 quad .50's can wreck havoc at closer ranges of 200-600k. They're pretty good sitting in the middle of a field or Vbase and ping those that come in hot and heavy. Though I never use it anymore, it does have it's place if used right and don't fire at targets 1K or more.
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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 07:32:34 PM »
LOL!!! Yes you guys are all right, but like I said, "anything is possible, but not very probable" meaning yes you can hit effectively with 50's at 800.....IF you have an aim like Steve, not many do. The same goes for field guns, I've known a number of people who took out bombers 4k out, but most people done have that aim/luck.

I was just pointing out the the general areas in which the OP can expect to hit hard/well enough.

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 08:28:34 PM »
I usually only shoot from 300 yds or closer. Anything farther out, with exceptionsand in my opinion, is wasting ammo.

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Re: Whats the maximum gun range sirs?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 09:13:24 PM »
Testing in the TA, I can't get my 50 cals to punch holes in the target beyond about 1100yds, depending on my altitude.  Being higher allows my rounds to puch holes slightly further out, maybe up to about 1200yds.
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