Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?

[Swager]

Great game, hours of fun.  IT was quite intense.  We had over 30 people in our squad and alot of them were from Aces High.  Once I get a new machine, I will probably sign up again.   

[Flipperk]

It used to require a subscription and a Cray computer to run it.

Regarding  this title, it should have been "For all 10 of you who used to play WWII Online..look.."    

It still requires a sub. And theres ALOT more than 10 people playing this game 

[Vulcan]

So I hear there's a bug that doesn't render damage on aircraft markings (ie hit the RAF roundels with 20mm and no damage is taken).... I also hear they corrected the rudder bugs that they've denied for years.

CRS's attitude towards customers, their tendency to avoid the truth, and play political games with squads and HC's left a sour taste in my mouth.
Then there's the whole issue of Doc.

[OOZ662]

I'd almost rather have bodies disappear as soon as they're marked dead than ragdoll.

[Dowding]

They did fix the tracking back in early 08, as long as your still in the world it will track even if you cant see the bombs. I level ABs all the time with 111s and register 15 kills on average, bombing from 6 and 7K

Are you sure? They implemented an ordnance server? That was what it was going to take to rectify the bombing from altitude issue. I last played in the middle of 2008 and the issue was still there.

I’ve seen nothing in the news letters about an ordnance server.

Rag doll is good improvement, but it’s hardly groundbreaking. Red Orchestra had it years ago.

[Flipperk]

Are you sure? They implemented an ordnance server? That was what it was going to take to rectify the bombing from altitude issue. I last played in the middle of 2008 and the issue was still there.

I’ve seen nothing in the news letters about an ordnance server.

Rag doll is good improvement, but it’s hardly groundbreaking. Red Orchestra had it years ago.

im positive that this was fixed, it was added when mortars came into play because of not being able to see the mortar hit.

[Westy]

"It still requires a sub. And theres ALOT more than 10 people playing this game"

Hardcase! How ya been?


IMO WIIO is still pretty lame...


And ragdoll animation can't make up for the huge fundamental problems such as the
1990's graphics, 1980's view system, pogo stick flight model, waterbed bouncy
vehicle animations, "mist" layers in the air, serious visible con problems and over all
suckass gameplay with brigades and all the other "structure" crap they threw in a
few years ago. Can ya bail from aircraft yet? heheheh

But wgafs if the "world" is huge over there. There are a much better graphics, sounds
and realism (not to forget to mention more players and combat) per city block in one
of those so-called "shoe-box" games than there is in ten square miles of WWIIO.

 Neat gimmicks still can't make a silk purse from a sows ear. See vids for what WWIIO
is really like...  

Tanks uber alles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLL9Ew-7GQ8

Bouncy, bouncy, loopety loop air combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RciPpQS2Eyc

Para's are cool and mucho funno! (not really. a lot of time for nothing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pw9oFwjygU

[Stott]

It is called STO..Server Tracked Objecs...Mortars, trucks, tank hulks, bodies and bombs, all are persistent and are not client side and there is talk of adding more.

[Tac]

you cant really compare an MMO like WW2OL with red orchestra though.


WW2OL delivers solid gameplay against a LOT of other players (usually battles have 150+ people on each side fighting in one small area) in different roles (army/air/command).

The new improvements and goodies on this coming patch are nice but in my opinion the rats could've done something more useful than eye candy. Rag doll is eye candy considering you dont really shoot someone and watch them rag doll to death because you're too busy fighting.

the additional visual cover from the grass was great! That was REALLY needed. The new buildings and objects could use some work. The new capture system in my opinion sucks ... its like the rats trying to force players to cram like sardines in an existing flag where the REAL problem was the way the flags were almost next door to each other (making the holding/capturing of them such an exercise in camping skill it wasnt funny).

I unsubbed about 4 months ago and I was in the Allied High Command for a while.. im not resubscribing until the game receives the much needed (and asked for) HC->players comm tools, mini-map marking tools and above all, a reworking of the capture system (mainly location of capture objects. its DUMB to have modelled europe at 50% scale only to have people fighting 3km short of the towns!... id love to see flag buildings holding high ground locations, road junctions, etc) and a better, visible, destructible supply system like AH's trains).

[Reschke]

I was in one of the initial beta groups for several months before the first public release. In the VERY beginning the flight model was pretty good and comparable to what was in AH at the time. Shortly after I got in the beta; our squadron at the time LJK was accepted as a whole and we played both the ground and the air side. The ground proved to be the stuff for the game since one of the early beta patches killed the air war and boosted the ground. It was cool riding in a vehicle pulling an 88 and having it dropped off to ambush an Allied armor group that was coming down the road into one of the little towns. The bad part was not being able to see the infantry guy sneaking up to pop you in the back of the head because he was outside the object limit on your client.

[MjTalon]

http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/index.php/component/content/article/10-production-notes/2968-v131-preview-upgrade-includes-variable-weather-and-rag-doll-physics

Flight model still sucks compared to AH but the ground war has just gotten a new face lift... I think I will be renewing my sub. when this update is released. Looks awesome and it's been a LONG time in the making. Think this is what it needed to actually bring itself up to graphical standard.

Thoughts?

[Flipperk]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,272979.0.html



search is your friend  


AND BTW i found this interesting note on Wiki: Any truth?

"WWIIOL is continuously developed by Cornered Rat Software (CRS) located in Bedford, Texas, USA. The development team, who are affectionately known as The Rats, includes members with experience developing World War II flight simulations such as Air Warrior, WarBirds and Aces High. CRS is a wholly owned subsidiary of Playnet Inc. which administers subscriptions, billing, accounting, the worldwide networks and game servers."
                         - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornered_Rat_Software#Developers



Ive played both WWIIOL and AH and both flight models are pretty top notch. WWIIOL just has a better damage model than AH

[MjTalon]

Silly me. I don't come in the O club often sooo. 

[Ack-Ack]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,272979.0.html



search is your friend  


AND BTW i found this interesting note on Wiki: Any truth?

"WWIIOL is continuously developed by Cornered Rat Software (CRS) located in Bedford, Texas, USA. The development team, who are affectionately known as The Rats, includes members with experience developing World War II flight simulations such as Air Warrior, WarBirds and Aces High. CRS is a wholly owned subsidiary of Playnet Inc. which administers subscriptions, billing, accounting, the worldwide networks and game servers."
                         - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornered_Rat_Software#Developers



Ive played both WWIIOL and AH and both flight models are pretty top notch. WWIIOL just has a better damage model than AH

I don't recall if any of the Rats were former Kesmoids (ex-Kesmai, makers of AW) but I know some were with WB but who from the Rat's worked on AH?

As for the flight model of WW2OL compared to AH, I have no idea where you get the impression that WW2OL's flight model is top notch, its anything but that.  Hell, FA I think has a better flight model than WW2OL.

ack-ack

[Flipperk]

How so Ack-Ack?