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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2009, 03:08:14 PM »
The whole "dar bar" explaination has been, "someone spotted the planes flying over".  Why wouldn't this also hold true for a hord of low level aircraft,

In this case, it does.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 03:34:44 PM »
Last night I spotted a bish darbar a couple sectors away from the nearest knight base which then disappeared.  I upped a P47 to investigate this and stayed pretty close to that knight base.  Sure enough, an NOE mission showed up.  I wrecked four planes before a really fortunate shot took my tailfeathers off.  A squadmate had shown up too, and a couple other knights, and the raid utterly failed.  Just pay attention to the map and a lot of these things shake themselves out for you.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2009, 05:34:39 PM »
Upping against a Noe raid,large or small,win or lose, is some of the most fun you can have in this game.

One of the worst aspects of the LW arenas Imho is having to climb to ridiculous alts to be on equal ground with the dweebs that need the alt advantage.

Then once you have gained an equal footing with the con, you have him run and climb,run and climb.

Next thing ya know you're low on fuel at 25k+ chasing a guy who doesn't want to fight, he just wants easy kills.

Upping against an Noe mission is a great way to have several quick low alt fights.

Cv raids are another great source of entertainment. (as long as the Cv is a reasonable distance from the base)

I'll take Noe or Cv raids over chasing or ducking score boy pick dweebs anyday!

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2009, 06:59:58 PM »
What 1boner said.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2009, 08:40:06 PM »
But wait, if there is only 8 per sector, what about those great furballs?
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2009, 01:42:20 PM »
His solution wasn't to limit planes to 8 per sector.  It was to enforce a darbar showing for any planes over 8 in the sector, no matter how low they are flying.

That being said, I agree that nothing really needs to be done about this.  I don't think it's a real problem with the game.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2009, 01:44:52 PM »
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2009, 04:47:44 PM »
ok, if you want to defend your base against an NOE raid, then up a fighter and kick some ass!!!!

seriously, ive been in several succesful NOE raids, and every time, only one or two guys come and fight us. the bish is the only country who seems to defend their basses easily (OOORAH!!! GO BISH!!!!!) and can actually succesfully do an NOE mission. just grow a pair and see how fun it is.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2009, 04:51:36 PM »
seriously, ive been in several succesful NOE raids, and every time, only one or two guys come and fight us.


The reason for this is simple: Not many players are waiting in the tower and scanning the map and CH2 for indications of a NOE raid.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2009, 04:56:20 PM »
What 1boner said.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2009, 05:47:54 PM »

The reason for this is simple: Not many players are waiting in the tower and scanning the map and CH2 for indications of a NOE raid.

While I'll admit that I'm in the minority, I DO watch the map as much "as possible".

And I don't wait around in the tower to do it.

I'm usually watching the map while on climb out to get to a decent fighting altitude.

If I spot or hear about a suspected Noe or Cv attack in progress I ask myself a question.

Do I wanna waste 10 minutes climbing to alt only to have to chase some dweeb or be picked off by some score boy diving in from 20k, or do I want to fight?

My score will attest to the amount of times I decide to auger and fight. (please ignore the fact that I am also a lousy pilot)

When I see a base suspiciously flashing I will check it out.

If it turns out to be an Noe, I put up an alert and contact my squadies.

For the most part they will drop what they are doing to join the party!!

As everyone knows, your 1st priority is to kill the goon.

Now its not a base take anymore, just a great low alt furball!!

If they take the base--so what, theres plenty more bases available.

I find it interesting that on a given night, when I go to check out a flashing base, I will for the most part see the same guys over and over again, upping at the base to check it out.

There are map watchers out there, but Lusche is correct that they are the minority.

Maybe we should start some type of secret association! :noid

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2009, 06:34:31 PM »
Here's my solution:
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2009, 09:02:38 PM »
noticed a few massive NOE raids yesterday, and whereas a small raid is defendable at the last minute, 8 sets of buffs with 12 fighter escorts really isnt. A solution occured to me, whadya think?

Max of 8 aircraft NOE per sector, any more than 8 show up on darbar. eg. 9 aircraft NOE shows as 1 aircraft's worth of darbar. 20 shows as a full darbar. Why 8? Its more than enough for a sneaky capture.



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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2009, 07:11:13 AM »

There are map watchers out there, but Lusche is correct that they are the minority.

Maybe we should start some type of secret association! :noid

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2009, 08:53:03 AM »
solution for massive NOE raids

I thought this thread was going to be about the Mk103.

Nevermind.