Author Topic: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel  (Read 4294 times)

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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2009, 10:16:44 AM »
Straffo....after knowing you these many years in aces high the comment you made is not like what you'd normally say.

Is there something in the rules that bothers you?

If so point them out! We may be able then to know what your statement is pointed at and make corrections if need be.

And gentlemen please do not make this a flame war.....let's hear what bothers Straffo and discuss this intelligently.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 10:18:24 AM by Hajo »
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2009, 10:48:38 AM »
I didn't read all of the rules but the thing that immediately jumped out at me is that you guys are going to require the Russian players to be offensive with even force numbers.  That pretty much means the Germans win, period.
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2009, 11:23:06 AM »
I didn't read all of the rules

Well I suggest you do, or at least read the writeup at the top of the thread.  At the time of this fight, the Luftwaffe had commited almost everything available in Germany to the eastern front.  Numbers were more even than you might think and with ANY real fight there are times where the numbers are even, or lopsided for one side or another.  If it bothers you that much, please consider this a section of the front where the numbers are therefore even due to the importance of the Germans stopping the oncoming Russians.

People tend to not want an event where it's 300 to 50, hence the problem with recreating Bodenplatte.

I hope you sign up and enjoy it.

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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 11:47:16 AM »
I can't find it in the rules...just took a quick scan though.

Where will we find our group assignments?
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 11:58:55 AM »
i mean the enemy icon naturally

So did I.

Your real-world eyeballs can see SO MUCH MORE than the tiny pixellated BLOBS in-game will ever represent. Hitech mentioned once that max zoom was about the level of detail the human eye normally sees (but try flying around on max zoom all the time!).

icons are a much-needed part of this game. Turning them off does not (in any way) simulate "realism" -- it just simulates you (the player) being blind and unable to see something 10 yards away that normal pilots can see at 40 yards.

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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2009, 11:59:39 AM »
nevermind just saw I have access to the forum
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2009, 12:02:12 PM »
84 fighter on the russian side
116 on the german side

Nothing even at start add to this the little details and the outcome of the event will be : German side victory

Russian side should be on offensive without having the mean to do it.
That's stupid.

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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 12:06:51 PM »
84 fighter on the russian side
116 on the german side

Nothing even at start add to this the little details and the outcome of the event will be : German side victory

Russian side should be on offensive without having the mean to do it.
That's stupid.

Staffo,

I hope you find a future scenario more to your liking.

Everyone else please check the write up for the numbers and types of aircraft and the targets which are present each frame.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 12:10:24 PM by Fencer51 »
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 12:56:58 PM »
Need more 109G14 Pilots....


If interested please send me a PM. In need of an experienced FL as well!

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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2009, 01:08:42 PM »
Well I suggest you do, or at least read the writeup at the top of the thread.  At the time of this fight, the Luftwaffe had commited almost everything available in Germany to the eastern front.  Numbers were more even than you might think and with ANY real fight there are times where the numbers are even, or lopsided for one side or another.  If it bothers you that much, please consider this a section of the front where the numbers are therefore even due to the importance of the Germans stopping the oncoming Russians.

People tend to not want an event where it's 300 to 50, hence the problem with recreating Bodenplatte.

I hope you sign up and enjoy it.

Cheers
I did read the writeup at the start of the thread before I read any other post.  It listed historical numbers of 5000 Russian aircraft and 1800 German aircraft, yet in the scenario you turned that into German numeric equality or even superiority.

Why sign up for something that has a scripted outcome?  Where is the fun in that?
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 01:10:33 PM by Karnak »
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2009, 01:25:34 PM »
I did read the writeup at the start of the thread before I read any other post.  It listed historical numbers of 5000 Russian aircraft and 1800 German aircraft, yet in the scenario you turned that into German numeric equality or even superiority.

Why sign up for something that has a scripted outcome?  Where is the fun in that?

Karnak,

I am not going to debate you here on this.  Terrain, plane sets and playability all come into any scenario design.  You have an opinion. right or wrong, and you are welcome to it.

I can guarantee you that not signing up will result in a 100% chance of not having fun.

Have a great day.
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2009, 01:32:25 PM »
werd!
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2009, 03:10:59 PM »
Edited:

Germany will Triumph not because of some skewed rules in the scenario, but rather due to the Will of the people who fly on the German side.
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2009, 04:35:28 PM »
Edited:

Germany will Triumph not because of some skewed rules in the scenario, but rather due to the Will of the people who fly on the German side.


I will just have to kill the extra 20 or 30 german planes single handed.   :D
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Re: Next Scenario Registration is OPEN - Red Storm / Krupp Steel
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2009, 04:36:42 PM »
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