Any Glock Owners Out There?

[Yeager]

I fully understand, I even envy your freedom. You're all still stark raving madmen.  

There are certain people in this world that need to be shot.  Guns allow us to do this.

Its also about slavery.  If you have a government telling you that you cannot own a decent gun then you are a slave to that government.  Sign, sealed and delivered.

I cannot be a slave, not knowingly.

[Yeager]

But in all seriousness, the only thing that ever worries me about having one in the chamber is if a child could get to it, and that would be my fault for leaving it accessible to curious hands.

mir

it is an immense responsibility that has the power to literally destroy your life.

[Maverick]

I carried a Glock 19 daily for quite a while. It was both duty and off duty for that particular pistol. I had a nice duty holster but the majority of times I carried it in the back waist band under the belt. It never moved nor shifted position in the several years I carried it that way. I tried several holsters for off duty but they all caused the gun to "print" and be far more obvious than the inside the waist band. That is important in a warm weather area like the SW. If you are in Michigan wearing a coat a good part of the year it's no big deal. My Glock was far far more comfortable than the Officers model (.45) it replaced as it was the same size but lighter loaded than the Colt was empty. The 19 is a good compromise in size with a decent number of rounds, good sight radius and easy to shoot well.

Like several other things, a handgun is a personal choice. What works for one person may not fit the next so well. Find a local range that rents guns. That gives you the chance to shoot several without having to buy them. Then get the one you liked the most. It's not the size, color or features that are important. It's hitting the target that is the most critical. In a time of stress your accuracy WILL degrade. If it's hard to hit when you are relaxed it may be impossible when in fear of your life. Use a gun that you shoot well and easily hit with. A hit with a smaller gun is better than a miss with a 44 mag.

[katanaso]

it is an immense responsibility that has the power to literally destroy your life.

And a lot of people don't realize that fact.

[Jayhawk]

I better go get that gun before this thread gets hijacked into a political discussion!!

[Shuffler]

I better go get that gun before this thread gets hijacked into a political discussion!!

 

[PJ_Godzilla]

I'm looking to buy my second gun.  I'm fairly certain I'll be getting a Glock but I only have one concern.  I want to to have the option to conceal carry the gun, that means sticking a gun close to my body with one in the chamber.  Anyone have any concerns about sticking the Glock down their pants or would you just recommend a good CC holster and practice on withdraw?

Thanks

I have a Glock Model 23 and a CCW. I don't carry my Glock. Get something you can externally safety, perhaps a nice Sig P229 or something. Or, if you're like me, you'll sit on your porch at night with your AR or FN FAL on your lap, just to remind the communists of Ann Arbor about the cold dead hands thing ( I actually did this in the blackout of '06. I doubt anyone could actually see the rifle from the road but the thought was there).

I'd recommend a 40 cal or a 45 cal, either way. The 9 is too wimpy. I don't shoot people often but I think the 40 cal will cut through a couple of layers of automotive steel and still have enough KE to leave a nice wound channel, if you're using the right bullets. Speaking of which, even a 9 in fmj will overpenetrate - and that includes auto steel. Get some nice Starfires or Bon-Bons in +P or so - good expansion with plenty of energy means big wounds without overpenetration.

Either way, enjoy your pistol and your CCW. Remember, if Big MamaJama's "babies" are all dead, they ain't gone t'testifah t' sheeeeee.

Okay, maybe that last part's over the top...

[Masherbrum]

I have a Glock Model 23 and a CCW. I don't carry my Glock. Get something you can externally safety, perhaps a nice Sig P229 or something. Or, if you're like me, you'll sit on your porch at night with your AR or FN FAL on your lap, just to remind the communists of Ann Arbor about the cold dead hands thing ( I actually did this in the blackout of '06. I doubt anyone could actually see the rifle from the road but the thought was there).

I'd recommend a 40 cal or a 45 cal, either way. The 9 is too wimpy. I don't shoot people often but I think the 40 cal will cut through a couple of layers of automotive steel and still have enough KE to leave a nice wound channel, if you're using the right bullets. Speaking of which, even a 9 in fmj will overpenetrate - and that includes auto steel. Get some nice Starfires or Bon-Bons in +P or so - good expansion with plenty of energy means big wounds without overpenetration.

Either way, enjoy your pistol and your CCW. Remember, if Big MamaJama's "babies" are all dead, they ain't gone t'testifah t' sheeeeee. Okay, maybe that last part's over the top...

The blackout was in 2003, not 2006.   But brandishing is showing irresponsibility on your part as a CCW holder.   Playing billy-bad-ass is not the image most of us law abiding citizens take part in, that goes for stereotypes as well.   I had my USP 45, but it was never brought out at all, because there was no need.   

Funniest of all, you sound like you're from Ypsilanti, not Ann Arbor.   I'm a mile from Detroit, you do the math.   

[PJ_Godzilla]

The blackout was in 2003, not 2006.   But brandishing is showing irresponsibility on your part as a CCW holder.   Playing billy-bad-ass is not the image most of us law abiding citizens take part in, that goes for stereotypes as well.   I had my USP 45, but it was never brought out at all, because there was no need.  

Funniest of all, you sound like you're from Ypsilanti, not Ann Arbor.   I'm a mile from Detroit, you do the math.  

Masher, there's this thing called humor. Perhaps you didn't appreciate it. You're right about the blackout. Tempus fugit. Time runs away from me.

As for the brandishing charge, however, sitting on my porch with a semiauto rifle discretely tucked behind a rail fails to qualify. Indeed, carrying a rifle openly wouldn't constitute a brandish unless you aimed it threateningly or verbalized/otherwise signalled some threat. While I wasn't especially concerned about looting, one of my friends in FL said they would take similar precautions after hurricanes and actually had an armed neighborhood watch. Further, it made sense to sit out there and have dinner and keep watch. After all, I had no power.

As for playing Billy Badass, only as a joke on the bbs - where, apparently, I'm among other gunowners.

I take the whole thing very seriously - ever since the day, long ago, when I bought my first gun (a milled receiver SKS) and a huge tin of chinese ammo. I realized, on my way home that it's a genuinely awesome responsibility. Fail to recognize that and you're likely to hurt someone or end up in jail or the wrong side of the turf.

So, with that paean to seriousness, I'll close. The rest was bluster - though I DO NOT think the Glock a good choice for carry unless your safe handling habits are very good. That part was serious. As was, come to think, my choice of handgun ammo.

A mile from Detroit? You've got real security needs there, probably. I, however, really do not. Sorry if my attempt to make light was unfunny. My condolences if you're in the City income tax band... people really should abandon that corrupt and decaying blighted metropolis. The leadership is rotten to the core and the business climate is punitive.

BTW, someone from Ypsi wouldn't have an FAL - probably never would've heard of it - and would instead be starting a topic about sex with relatives.

[Terror]

though I DO NOT think the Glock a good choice for carry unless your safe handling habits are very good. That part was serious. As was, come to think, my choice of handgun ammo.

This statement is just "anti-glock" ....  No matter what firearm you are carrying you *MUST* have very safe handling habits.  Otherwise you are a danger to yourself and anyone around you.  Glock firearms are as safe as any other gun on the market.  Negligent Discharges are cause by poor handling, poor decisions, and a string of mistakes.  An external safety is no guarantee against a negligent discharge.  A proper holster with the proper trigger protection should be used for all carry situations. 

Terror

[TwinEng]

lol I doubt you'll get far with that m4 mounted on there. 

But think how very pleased women will be when they see him approach???   


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[Jayhawk]

Remember, if you're going to buy a gun, make sure you've got your new address on your driver's license.

[TwinEng]

it is an immense responsibility that has the power to literally destroy your life.

I think that poor Plaxico failed to ponder that point:

[DJ111]

Bull....

I have fired well over 10,000 rounds in a Glock 24C and the gun never went off unless I intended it to. Show me where a Glock had an accidental discharge and I will show you someone not executing proper gun safety.

For a small concealed carry gun I think the .40 S&W is ideal, even in a light gun (like small Glock) they have manageable recoil yet still have descent stopping power.

Strip

I've lost count of how many rounds I've put through my Sig P226 in the 10 years I've had it, but I know it has NEVER jammed, discharged or broke on duty or on the range.

The only thing I've changed on it was a Hogue wraparound grip.

I've seen so many Glocks, especially new ones that have jammed or broke at the range or on duty.

They're decent handguns, don't get me wrong, but I will never carry one.  They are almost similar to the little AR-15s with all the tinker-toys you can put on'em...

Google 'glock accidental discharge' and enjoy...

[Yeager]

do you imply that the sig is immune to negligent/accidental discharge?