respectfully you were not there so you have nothing to say as to where gum's post differed from our conversation.
you have admitted to the difficulty you have representing trim because of the input devices in another conversation of ours. that is one of his bigger issues one which he addresses in that post. i will be fair and say that you say it is different between the games, however it feels very much the same to me.
my bigger issue is the flaps and low speed handling and maneuverability they allow, and that seems to come down to how much they helped over hurt in the game vs reality. none of the experts here you speak of have chimed in against my sentiments on this issue, at least not in any "i am an expert here is the data" manner that i have noticed.
on some of the Grognard ww2 boards i have seen where AH players get set very straight on the use of extreme flap deployments in combat, not one expert in favor of the possibility chimed in over there there either.
other players have posted about relaxed stalls as i have noted in here which also contributes to my issue of success outside of ones envelope. i was not here before so i will just have to take their word on the matter.
as far as who was where when during the WB2-WB3-AH break up reform start up thing i do not know, i will defer to you on that.
i assure you that your name was not left out of that discussion PD gums and i were having about where things went astray in the games, but i will allow that you will probably know more about that than any of us would.
it is possible i may have misunderstood his opinion on your involvement but that was not something i brought up here in any way so if you feel the need to sort that out with him go ahead.
i posted gums opinion because i value it, i felt it was on topic as i was involved in the discussion that that post mirrored. the aspects of the games which we were discussing were considered by all to be very off and included those i have brought up here. for the record we were discussing AW AH WB and IL-2. it was very much a what was good what was bad and where it went wrong and how. the consensus was that all the games were better at some things than all the others even the lowly AW had its good points that none of the others have done as well.
i suspect that that would be the conclusion of most players who have been around long enough to offer an opinion.
as far as others opinions not involved in this discussion i have pointed out that you yourself make decisions about including others posts that you feel are pertinent to a discussion and handle that in very much the same manner as i did. the only comment about that was that the data did not actually address the specific point under discussion.
so i guess though we believe we were contributing at the time others feel differently, so be it.
funny that AGW has turned out to be the more civil board than this one in any regard.
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You are still trying to post miss conceptions. Gums post state that the changes to WB went down hill AFTER Pyro and I left. Yet you are trying to still claim that it is in some way about AH and sims in general.
And btw stating some one elses opinion who is not involved in the discussion is very strange. Because you may believe he is saying one thing but as you interpret what he said, it comes out very different. And as far as you trying to claim "But I stayed in a holiday in last night" I.E. you had dinner with someone who flys a lot,you would not really want to stack that credential against many in this thread. Because many here have the same experience as Gum.
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