Ain't nothin like a Jeep

[texasmom]

WW, that was a funny one

[Ripsnort]

Read in the paper, Hummer will be discontinued  2011.  Jeep wins again! I'm sorry to all you jeep haters. I do laugh at the Yellow H2's parked at the grocery store. Nothing says look at me im an idiot more than a yellow hummer parked at a grocery store IMO.

Ripsnort, your Cruiser looks cute! I'd be more than happy to pull you out of the ditch if needed!

Ironically, the only pull I've had to do was pulling a jeep out of a ditch in a snowstorm last winter. The fellow was rather embarassed but thankful. He tried to pay $20 but I told him to just tell his buddies that it was "FJ to the rescue!" (He belonged to a local Jeep club.)  

Our FJ Club offroads with Jeep clubs all the time. It's not what you drive, its the sport of offroading that we all love. That said, FJ's rule, Jeeps just drool.  

[RichardDarkwood]

I bought my jeep from a old man who let it sit outside for over 5 years. When my brother and I went to pick up the jeep he asked if it ran, I said it was made in Toledo of course it will run and after a new tune-up kit and some wiring modifications it fired right up. You cannot kill a jeep no matter what. I believe as far as out wheeling other vehicles that it is not what your driving but who is driving the vehicle that matters.



Todd

[CAP1]

Ironically, the only pull I've had to do was pulling a jeep out of a ditch in a snowstorm last winter. The fellow was rather embarassed but thankful. He tried to pay $20 but I told him to just tell his buddies that it was "FJ to the rescue!" (He belonged to a local Jeep club.)  

Our FJ Club offroads with Jeep clubs all the time. It's not what you drive, its the sport of offroading that we all love. That said, FJ's rule, Jeeps just drool.  

i've never had to pull anything out.....but had to be pulled out once..........went over a "whoopdidoo" fast, when when i came back down, there was no ground where it used to be(it had been months since i had been there) but rather a somewhat deep puddle(felt more like a pond). anyway, she cut off when i hit the water.

 another chevy pulled me out. 

[VonMessa]

Ironically, the only pull I've had to do was pulling a jeep out of a ditch in a snowstorm last winter. The fellow was rather embarassed but thankful. He tried to pay $20 but I told him to just tell his buddies that it was "FJ to the rescue!" (He belonged to a local Jeep club.)  

Our FJ Club offroads with Jeep clubs all the time. It's not what you drive, its the sport of offroading that we all love. That said, FJ's rule, Jeeps just drool.  

We went wheeling in the NJ Pine Barrens last fall.  We had just ran out of trash bags that we use for our clean-up that we try to do whenever we go wheeling.

Just about that time, a FJ club came climbing up the hill, about 7 or 8 of them.  One even had a trailer to put trash in, and a whole bunch more bags for trash.  They had also brought shovels, rakes and other implements of destruction to aid in clean-up.  I was the only guy with a jeep, but they never said a word about it, or broke my balls.  Really nice bunch of people.

http://www.fjbruisers.org/

[Ripsnort]

We went wheeling in the NJ Pine Barrens last fall.  We had just ran out of trash bags that we use for our clean-up that we try to do whenever we go wheeling.

Just about that time, a FJ club came climbing up the hill, about 7 or 8 of them.  One even had a trailer to put trash in, and a whole bunch more bags for trash.  They had also brought shovels, rakes and other implements of destruction to aid in clean-up.  I was the only guy with a jeep, but they never said a word about it, or broke my balls.  Really nice bunch of people.

http://www.fjbruisers.org/

Yep, there is a lot of respect between Jeep and Toyota owners.
And we also carry a couple big trash bags to clean up the trails everytime we go out. WTG on the clean up! <S>

[VonMessa]

Yep, there is a lot of respect between Jeep and Toyota owners.
And we also carry a couple big trash bags to clean up the trails everytime we go out. WTG on the clean up! <S>

Looks like they (the pigs that littered), climbed the fire watch tower at Apple Pie Hill and went ape-poop dropping stuff off of it into the puddle at the bottom..........

We literally filled this guy's trailer with garbage.  You name it...  about 3 TV's, 5 computers, keyboards, etc.  I'm ashamed to say that there was probably about 200 pounds of half-burned Quadratech catalogs there, also.  My kids chipped in to clean-up though, so it was a good object lesson

[Stampf]

Have owned everything under the sun.  Will never go back to anything else.



'04 TJ Rubi.

[AKHog]

The jeep vs. X argument is silly. There is no answer, only everyone's opinions, and you know what they say about opinions...

You can find examples of suzukis and hummers that will pull anything in this thread. Gona go tell those guys their vehicles suck?

That being said, I'm a yota man! 

I had a late 70's CJ-5 and it was a bucket. Not my only experience with jeeps, but the only one I've owned, and the only one I'll ever own...

'73 longbed, runs great (fill the oil, check the gas). My current wood truck.

'98 4runner doing some local trail cleanup.

'85 4runner starting up the Great Western. Locked front and rear, 100/1 final low, good for 4+ feet of water, took me a lot of places...

'91 extended cab prerunner. 18 inches of travel front and rear, like riding a 110 mph mattress down whatever you dared.

[Skuzzy]

Just watch those floor mats AKHog. 

[CAP1]

Just watch those floor mats AKHog. 

ain't nuthin wrong with toyotas............

[Widewing]

Ironically, the only pull I've had to do was pulling a jeep out of a ditch in a snowstorm last winter. The fellow was rather embarassed but thankful. He tried to pay $20 but I told him to just tell his buddies that it was "FJ to the rescue!" (He belonged to a local Jeep club.)  

Our FJ Club offroads with Jeep clubs all the time. It's not what you drive, its the sport of offroading that we all love. That said, FJ's rule, Jeeps just drool.  

Where FJs suffer is outward vision (nothing quite equals top down, doors off) and a Independent Front Suspension. Better on road, a major weakness off road. Not unlike the Hummer, IFS is always the weak link. Again, like the Hummer the FJ is prone to breaking tie rod ends. My neighbor suffered his third failed tie rod on his 4Runner last fall rock crawling. He keeps a spare onboard with the required tools.

Here's an example of a tie rod failing.. Around the 4:10 mark. His spotters were generally useless. He was clearly bottomed, and needed to back off and try a better line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fE-IV5tP0&feature=related

By the way, In December I had to pull an FJ off of a snow berm. The driver tried to drive over it, high centered with the rear wheels barely touching and was not going anywhere without a tow or the spring thaw. I used my snatch strap to yank him off. But first, I had to drive over the berm myself. Shorter wheelbase, bigger tires and greater ground clearance made it easy enough. Like anything else, the driver has to know what he can and cannot accomplish. I've seen Rubicons buried up to the door sills on the beach, due to not airing down and having a lead foot. You can't fix stupid. Over the many years I've had CJs and Wranglers, I've pulled or winched out just about every type of SUV you can imagine. Broncos, Blazers, Tacos, YJs, TJs, Cherokees, Frontiers, F150s, even an old Subaru Brat. Getting stuck or high centered is easy if you don't use good judgment or common sense. I guess the most unusual was towing out a hydro-locked Disco. What he thought to be a shallow ford, suddenly stepped down four feet. Had to winch him out, then tow him to the road for a flatbed ride to the dealer. Wasn't easy to pull him out. We had to strap my YJ to a tree as I was winching the Jeep towards the Disco. He learned that you don't try to cross an unknown water obstacle without first determining the depth and speed of the water. Expensive lesson, his wife was not pleased. Riding home, soaking wet, in a tow truck, was not her idea of a fun afternoon.

At least no one has come out bragging about their Pilot or Ridgeline.....




My regards,

Widewing

[CAP1]

yep......nuthin like a jeep/..........

[RichardDarkwood]

normally I would add a comment about that Honda widewing is pulling free, but cougars are known to drive those vehicles he mentioned 





Todd

[Masherbrum]

FJ's seem to be very trouble free from my personal interaction with owners.   I know 4 people with them and all of them wheel them.   They aren't "mall crawlers".   People who "break", don't just "break".   Look.   The bottom line is not what you drive, it's how you drive it.   But more often than not, folks who drive Hummers, think they can go anywhere.   Those are the ones I avoid like the plague on the trails, maybe a "hi", but pretty much a "stay the **** away from me" on the tracks.   

A member of my Jeep club put up with this love muffin in an H1 for the duration of a wheeling trip.   It defied and went well beyond "ribbing".   Anywho, the H1 love muffin, was stuck up to his hubs in mud.   My buddy grenaded 1st, 2nd, 3rd and Reverse of his 2000 TJ.   But he extracted the H1.   Not many can lay claim to that.    H2's are a joke to begin with.

I've never been stuck.   The closest I got, was on my clubs SnoFari in 2007 at West Branch in January.   Not much snow, but tank traps galore.   I had my 83 CJ7 at the time.   I entered the first hole straddling the right side and my drivers door dipping below the top of the water.   I thought my Dana 300 was engaged, but I went 3/4's of the way through in 2WD, which was a feat in itself.   My read was perfect, but the gears didn't "mesh" good enough.  I nudged a buried boulder with my front diff, cover.   I stop, back up about 10 feet and engage the 300.   By this time, one of the more accomplished people in our group said "Pull your cable, you're done!"   I put her in drive and drove out to everyone's amazement.   

Jeeps are an excellent off road vehicle.  But, the Early Bronco's and the Mid 90's D90/D110's are tops (hell, the Camel Trophy vehicles were stock Discovery XD's with a roof rack and lights).   I'd even put the old FJ40's up there too.    People buy different vehicles, for various reasons.   But I can make substantiated, non-biased/opinionated arguments for those 4 vehicles being "the best".    It is even voiced by John Cappa himself:  "The Early Bronco is the greatest 4wd vehicle ever".   I've met him in person and we have discussed this in length.   We had some visitors on our run, that traveled from a Swedish 4wd Magazine. 

Here is a custom 4 door Tracker that can best any Rubicon I've seen in person.  18" Travel Fox Racing shocks all around.   He has since rolled it and instead of Dana 44's F & R, he's going with 60's.   

   

He is a Trail Guide (Trail Leader not a Sweep) on our Club Run.   We are now getting National Attention.   Our Club maintains 60+ miles of ORV trails twice a year and put on the most consistent GLFWDA Event.  We've only been around since Nov. 2005 on top of it.   But I cannot knock another man's ride, I just don't prefer Hummers.