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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #75 on: March 04, 2010, 05:37:48 AM »
Did the Ta152C see combat and squadron level service on production airframes?

Eywitness reports post-war seem to indicate that to be the case. However, no real evidence exist to this day and the people in question are now all dead. The short answer would be, no.

It is a very cool bird though, if you're into german engineering.

When & where did the Meteor MkIII see combat and against what type of aircraft? Was it only in action vs V1 rockets or did it also encounter the Luftwaffe? Personally I don't really consider 'in action vs V1 rockets' to count. It's a matter of definition I guess. A interesting aircraft but honestly there are literally hundreds of a/c that deserve to be added before both the Meteor and Ta152C should even be considered.

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #76 on: March 04, 2010, 07:52:29 AM »
Eywitness reports post-war seem to indicate that to be the case. However, no real evidence exist to this day and the people in question are now all dead. The short answer would be, no.

It is a very cool bird though, if you're into german engineering.

When & where did the Meteor MkIII see combat and against what type of aircraft? Was it only in action vs V1 rockets or did it also encounter the Luftwaffe? Personally I don't really consider 'in action vs V1 rockets' to count. It's a matter of definition I guess. A interesting aircraft but honestly there are literally hundreds of a/c that deserve to be added before both the Meteor and Ta152C should even be considered.
It was in service at the squadron level on the continent.  While it never shot down any flying German aircraft it did make attacks on German ground positions and installations during which it was shot at.  There was one fight against German aircraft that happened, but Allied fighters showed up and went after the Meteors causing them to withdraw before anything was shot down.

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2010, 10:42:27 AM »
Bit of an ugly duckling like most early jets but it would be good to go against 262's in
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I'd say it's beautiful, in the A-10 sorta way  :D
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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2010, 10:56:33 AM »
"badly needed aircraft"  tends to include 60% aircraft that you will see for a week and never again.

If I recall we just HAD to have the Brewster and I16..

good thing we got em too, game is MUCH more complete now with them sitting in the hangar.

Uh, the Brewster racked up more kills last late war tour (121) than the 109F4, LA5FN, P47D11, P47N, and ME163B.  The significance of those models?  Those are some of the planes you got kills in last tour.

I would not call the Brewster a hangar queen.

The I-16 only managed to get just over 30 kills a day last tour (903), in the late war arenas.  I am pretty sure that would remove the I-16 from 'hangar queen' status as well.

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2010, 12:36:22 PM »
I'd say it's beautiful, in the A-10 sorta way  :D

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2010, 07:48:54 PM »
I'm not trying to destroy good dogfights, I mean it would be nice to have jet v jet combat, but it never happened in WW2, so why give a possability of it in a WW2 game like AH

I guess we should remove the F4us because they never fought p-51s?
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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2010, 09:42:22 PM »
I guess we should remove the F4us because they never fought p-51s?

But at least the F4U's fought something.


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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2010, 09:45:55 PM »
I'm for the Meteor. +

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2010, 10:40:25 PM »
But at least the F4U's fought something.


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What are we talking about that didn't fight anything?

The Meteor did fight, but it should be a very low priority.
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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #84 on: March 04, 2010, 11:06:27 PM »
I would care to go no further into the jet age in this game than the Me262.

The term "hanger queen" gets thrown around too much. Some folks like to fly all different types of aircraft for all different reason's, weather they shoot anyone down in it or not. When they add the Ki-43 will it ever get as many kills in the MA as a Pony...probably not. But for the special events it will be added to probably just as many setups as the P-39 did when it was added (well not quite as many as the P-39  ;)). Not an MA star but a great plane to add none the less. Plus HTC gets to add another plane to its "Accurate flight modeling of over 80 aircraft, vehicles, and boats from around the world." Which is up to what 97 total aircraft, vehicles and a Boat now anyway. Its a win win for all involved. Add the Ki-43  :pray  :cheers:

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2010, 09:58:57 AM »
I would care to go no further into the jet age in this game than the Me262.

good because the meteor was in service before the 262
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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2010, 10:04:00 AM »
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good because the meteor was in service before the 262
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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2010, 12:22:17 PM »
"The Gloster Meteor entered service just after the Messerschmitt Me 262. In July 1944 the experimental unit Erprobungskommando 262 (Test Command 262) began to fly experimental interceptions of high flying Allied reconnaissance aircraft. On 25 July one of their Me 262s clashed with a RAF Mosquito, which escaped, allowing its crew to report their first encounter with a German jet. The first operational sortie of the Gloster Meteor came two days later, on 27 July.

The Gloster Meteor can claim to be the first jet fighter to enter operational service, while No.616 squadron of the RAF was the first operational jet fighter in the work. The first fully operational Me 262 squadron, Kommando Nowotny, was not formed until September 1944, under the command of the famous ace Walter Nowotny, flying its first operation on 3 October."

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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2010, 12:34:32 PM »
I guess we should remove the F4us because they never fought p-51s?

Corsairs and Mustangs fought each other but not during WW2.


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Re: Allied jets.
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2010, 10:19:23 AM »
So.....

"The Gloster Meteor entered service just after the Messerschmitt Me 262.


So it entered service just after the Me262 but.....

good because the meteor was in service before the 262


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