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Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« on: June 02, 2010, 06:33:28 PM »
Government is looking for 10,000 volunteers t test the actual speeds of their broadband connection


The US government needs 10,000 volunteers to hook a free, specialized router up to their broadband connections.

The FCC announced yesterday that 80 percent of Americans don't know the advertised speed of their own broadband connection—and that says nothing about the actual speed, which is often 40 or 50 percent slower. Broadband quality relies on more than sheer speed, but the public knows almost nothing about important, but more esoteric measurements like connection uptime, packet loss, latency, jitter, and DNS query time.

Neither does the FCC.


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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 07:35:51 PM »
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 07:59:16 PM »
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 08:05:14 PM »
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 09:32:55 PM »
It's bad enough the gubmint peeples monitor everything we do as it is...now they want people to voluntarily hook up a piece of government equipment designed to do who knows what under the guise of public information. We are truly a nation of lemmings.

Not happening in my house.
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 09:49:05 PM »
To me it looks like maybe (down the line) they will have some regulation about truth in advertising. As-is now we're surrounded and bombarded with outright LIES by the companies trying to sell their bandwidth to us, often throttling the bandwidth back after you sign up, or reducing the quality of your connection several fold at the 6-month-mark.

The entire system is rampant and without oversight. Look at it. Do you want that to keep going? I surely don't.


So, despite all the Big Brother paranoia (just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!), I see this as a step forward.


Broadband connection quality is an intangible thing. They want to learn more so they can regulate it. How they do it, and whether you trust them (or not) is one thing, but I see the effort itself as a good thing.

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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 10:20:09 PM »
The whole point of the study is to find out the state of broadband in the US.  (Which, by the way, pales in comparison to many other industrialized nations- we even rate below countries you've never heard of* where you'd expect the major mode of transportation is donkey.  We pay way more and get way less.)  I know that my cable broadband is terrible.  It meets specs when no one else is awake or home, like 3 AM or the middle of the day on workdays.  It can fall a factor of 10 to 20 below specs when you'd actually want to use it, i.e. during the evening.  Example: last Monday evening when people got back from their Memorial Day vacations my download rate fell to 0.28 Mbps and the ping went up to 427 ms.  This kind of information is what the "evil government's" router is designed to automatically collect.  In my area there is no competition so nothing improves and complaints about performance go directly to /dev/null.

The study is entirely voluntary, no one has to sign up.  I'm not going to sign up because I already measure this kind of data, I already have proof the service stinks, I've already sent a letter to the cable company, and they've already thrown it into the trash (it wasn't even a complaint letter- I just showed the data and asked if they are planning a node split).  No amount of further data is going to help me and the service will never improve as it is a monopoly.  I just smile, accept the terrible service, and pay whatever top dollar they ask.

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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 10:32:05 PM »
Krusty, you probably know the history of technology as well as anyone and who has controlled a majority of it since its inception. I.P. address space, wireless frequencies, Unix operating systems, security algorithms, telephone systems, communications satellites, etc... Unless the FTC and FCC are suddenly out of the loop, there is no way the government doesn't already know what consumers have known. There is a reason advertised bandwidth is precursored with the words "up to" and end with "depending on your".



There is a very interesting and innocuous place in Mississippi where the military does things, in public view and otherwise. One of the really cool things about this place is that it's a technology incubator for people who, if they present a project deemed worthy of further development can use government money and facilities to develop things that could be used for many different purposes. They supply the office space, warehouse space, labratory space, computers, telephones, etc... That place is tapped into many other sites across the country with similar missions, and one of the many things they have the capability of doing is exactly what the supposed purpose of that government project is claiming it's for.
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 11:05:32 PM »
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 02:24:42 AM »
Why do they need to test your broadband speeds you have already said it yourselves, your broadband rates are a joke.

In the UK they are not brilliant 15 - 20 Mps, Virgin offer fibre optics and HD TV + Films etc

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Re: Uncle Sam wants YOU to test your broadband connection
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 06:42:00 AM »
To me it looks like maybe (down the line) they will have some regulation about truth in advertising. As-is now we're surrounded and bombarded with outright LIES by the companies trying to sell their bandwidth to us, often throttling the bandwidth back after you sign up, or reducing the quality of your connection several fold at the 6-month-mark.

The entire system is rampant and without oversight. Look at it. Do you want that to keep going? I surely don't.


So, despite all the Big Brother paranoia (just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!), I see this as a step forward.


Broadband connection quality is an intangible thing. They want to learn more so they can regulate it. How they do it, and whether you trust them (or not) is one thing, but I see the effort itself as a good thing.

This is due to people not understanding what they are buying.  I can guarantee your immediate connection to your ISP is never throttled by anyone.  I can also guarantee your immediate connection to the Internet is exactly what you bought.

No one can guarantee the overall throughput of the Internet.  No one.  No amount of oversight or prying into is going to change that.  People like you will cause the end of the Internet as we know it.  Mark my words.

If you do not like your ISP's service, then terminate it.  That is how you control ISP's.  If you do not have the stomach for it, then quite whining about it.  You are the reason they can do what they do.  They count on sheep like you.
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