1 perk for m4a3-76?

[Belial]

Seems a bit silly to put it at 1 perk...if it needs perked which I don't think it does make it at least 3.  It is far superior to the t34-85 as modeled now and the t34 costs more.

[Lusche]

Not that I think a perk tag was really necessary, but a perk price of one probably won't change much in usage at all, as the (76)'s superiority over the Panzer is quite significant (Right now, it's still the same usage ratio as before... but maybe players did not notice the new perk cost yet? )

[usvi]

Seems a bit silly to put it at 1 perk...if it needs perked which I don't think it does make it at least 3.  It is far superior to the t34-85 as modeled now and the t34 costs more.

[Spikes]

Not that I think a perk tag was really necessary, but a perk price of one probably won't change much in usage at all, as the (76)'s superiority over the Panzer is quite significant (Right now, it's still the same usage ratio as before... but maybe players did not notice the new perk cost yet? )

Exactly what I was saying last night. It'd be interesting to see the Spit 16 perked at 1. It seems you can get 1 perk by killing some town buildings and everyone is whining about it being perked.

[SmokinLoon]

IMO, there should be a 1pt or 2 pt perk on about a dozen aircraft and gv's in the game.

The M4A3W 76mm is just the beginning.

[wsveum]

The 76 and the 85 are both 1 perk pt. So they are even as far as perks. I do not think the 76 is any better then the panzer, it is just hard to find the 76 or the firefly. Plus the 76 at long distance is not very good it takes many hits at long distances to take out a tank. Plus you do not want to take on the 76 in a frontal attack, it is very hard to kill that way just like most tank except the 75. But this is just what I have seen with using both the panzer before the 76 was in the game and after using the 76. I have die many times in the 76 with being hit with one shot. It is all where you hit any of the tanks on how easy they go down. I have learned over time where you can hit different tanks and I have learn that I would not like to take any but the 75 on in a frontal attack. But it is just something I have pick up with practice and a lot of dieing.

[Nemisis]

I don't see the reasoning behind perking the 76. Its not like its doing any real damage. I mean the Firefly was FAR too powerful for its perk price, but the M4(76) is fine. BARELY superior to the panzer.

So I guess any tank with a good gun and decent armor must be perked.

[Lusche]

I do not think the 76 is any better then the panzer,

It is. The considerable higher rate of fire alone is a distinct advantage in AH.

Also compare Panzer and M4A3(76)W K/Ds vs all other tanks: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,291985.0.html. The Sherman holds a 200-300% better K/D vs any other tank but the Tiger compared to the panzer

[Karnak]

Too many of the tanks in AH are perked now.  50% are perked.  Imagine the top 50% of fighters and bombers all being perked to one degree or another.

Unperk the M4A3(76) and T-34/85.  Let them sit at the top of the unperked tank food chain, leaving the Sherman VC Firely and Tiger I as real perk tanks.  Things like the Panther V G, Tiger II, IS-2 and M-26 can always be added to increase the perk spending options for tanks.

[texastc316]

1 perk. Big deal.

[AWwrgwy]

1 perk. Big deal.

QFT

I never noticed the old perk on the Firefly either.

1 perk?  Were all the country numbers even at the time or is this like a 100 perk 262?

Quite frankly, I haven't looked nor noticed it being perked.


wrongway

[Lusche]

1 perk?  Were all the country numbers even at the time or is this like a 100 perk 262?

No, it's really just one perk.

[Spikes]

QFT

I never noticed the old perk on the Firefly either.

1 perk?  Were all the country numbers even at the time or is this like a 100 perk 262?

Quite frankly, I haven't looked nor noticed it being perked.


wrongway

I believe it doesn't fluctuate.

[SmokinLoon]

The M4A3W 76mm and the Pzr IV are very similar in all attributes but one: rate of fire.  The rate of fire and the effectiveness of the 76mm AP round from the M1A1 cannon will win vs the Pzr 75mm KwK40 L/48 in a shot-swap battle.  The M4A3W 76mm has a %33 faster rate of fire (M4 = 3.6 seconds, Pzr IV = 5.4 seconds).  The penetration abilities of each round are too similar to give either one a definitive advantage, likewise the armor of each is close enough to put them in the "equal" category.

The rate of fire is far more important than most people realize, imo.  If people take into consideration it take a 3 shot volley, typically, to range and connect exactly where you want the shot to go, just how fast can a Tiger, or Firefly, or T34/85mm do the trick?  The M4A3 variants can do 3 shots in just under 11 seconds.  The T34/85mm does 3 shots in 20+ seconds.  The Tiger does 3 shots in just under 19 seconds.      

[Nemisis]

It is. The considerable higher rate of fire alone is a distinct advantage in AH.

Also compare Panzer and M4A3(76)W K/Ds vs all other tanks: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,291985.0.html. The Sherman holds a 200-300% better K/D vs any other tank but the Tiger compared to the panzer

This is likely because there are so many more M4's. I'm willing to bet that if there were just as many panzers as M4's, that it would be closer to a 50/50 KTD. I suppose if HTC is willing, we could hold an unofficial test, and have one group of tanks (say 50) up panzers and the other up M4's at a double spawn base. See what the KTD's say.