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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2010, 05:37:23 PM »
The next scenario will have C.202's and/or C.205's in it (Siege of Malta / Operation Pedestal).

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2010, 05:40:42 PM »
i have a lot of trouble in the "G". if i manage to saddle up on a con, i can't see crap out through that dam bullet proof shield they put in there.

I think the transparency in the P-38G might be hampered by the modelling in AH of using the "gunsight dark glass," which was in the real-life P-38G  to be used only optionally at pilot's discretion in bright sunlight.  In AH, the use of this extra layer of glass in the way of the gunsight reduces transparency, making it very hard to see through the gunsight compared to many other aircraft in AH, even other versions of the P-38.

From the P-38 manual, this is the layout for the gunsight of early P-38's:



where the manual says "When flying in bright sunlight, place the dark glass in position over the gunsight.  Later airplanes are not equiped with gunsight dark glass."  The gunsight dark glass was stowed in a holder at the left side of the cockpit when not in use.

From the P-38G cockpit in Aces High:



It seems that the gunsight dark glass is permanently installed.  Given that we can't toggle such a feature, I think that it would be better if it were permanently not installed for visibility in the Aces High environment.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2010, 06:03:18 PM »
CAP1, what were you in? You mention being on the verge of going too fast, which makes me think you guys were doing 350 at least.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2010, 06:04:37 PM »
i wish i could remember the dudes name.......flying an a5.......we merged at about 5k alt. the fight went slightly downhill, which i didn't want, as i was bordering on going too fast.



If you find yourself going to fast in a nose low turn fight, chop throttle and don't be afraid to use cross controls to slow you down.  Never go full throttle in a nose low turn fight otherwise you'll experience exactly what happened to you.  Honestly, using proper speed control in a nose low turn you wouldn't have had that problem with the FW190A-5 or any other FW190 type.


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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2010, 06:06:25 PM »
CAP1, what were you in? You mention being on the verge of going too fast, which makes me think you guys were doing 350 at least.

Or it could mean the FW190 was doing 150mph IAS and CAP1 was doing 250mph IAS. 


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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2010, 07:07:45 PM »
really?  I find the C.205 to be one of the easier planes to face in the P-38.


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From a C2 perspective it really depends on who enters the fight in a better position. Whoever tends to have better position will always make it easier on themselves. Example: A P-38 bounces my tail with lots of E, chances are it will be a very hard fight to stay alive. Example 2: A P-38 is crossing 90 degrees too me as I break hard to pull in behind him, chances are after a little manuvering he'll be dead.

EDIT: I guess that goes into the fact that the C2 isn't very good defensively. It's okay, but definitely a weakness with the poor turning capabilities.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2010, 07:12:20 PM »
CAP1, what were you in? You mention being on the verge of going too fast, which makes me think you guys were doing 350 at least.

i was in a p38j. i was lucky to be able to stay close enough to him to keep him from having a good chance at reversing me........he did get a good shot on me, and shortly after he went in, i lost #2 engine.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2010, 07:14:06 PM »

If you find yourself going to fast in a nose low turn fight, chop throttle and don't be afraid to use cross controls to slow you down.  Never go full throttle in a nose low turn fight otherwise you'll experience exactly what happened to you.  Honestly, using proper speed control in a nose low turn you wouldn't have had that problem with the FW190A-5 or any other FW190 type.


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i'm getting better at keeping my speed under control.....not there yet, but i can actually see a difference in me now, as compared to 6 months ago.........sometimes i still get too dam timid though, which i'm also getting out of little by little.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2010, 10:15:45 AM »
Any damage you can inflict with a 202 is important.  The weight of the 7.7s doesn't seem to affect performance in the least (which is kind of surprising, the plane doesn't weigh very much), so I've always thought it helps to bring them along.  The weird ammunition for the 12.7s requires you to be at 7.7 range anyhow to get the desired effect, so I just set the covergence for all four at 200 yards.

That said, I find that most of the few kills I get in a 202 are caused by the other guy auguring.

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I agree that the 7.7's don't largely impact performance, which is why I mentioned that in the first place.  However, the bigger thing for me is knowing that I am hitting with decent ammunition.  Augers are big, but on a good day I can get 2-3 cons with just the .50s.  (Good day being key term here.  :lol)  Just personal preference, I suppose.