NEW CAPTURE SYSTEM IS BULLCRAP!!!

[SmokinLoon]

It does lend to faster action/more action over a field.  With smaller groups of people the battles are less likely to be 30 attacker vs 3 defenders.  No matter how HTC turns the dials, the hoards are always going to hoard. 

The new settings allow for a more broad cross sections of battles to happen.  No doubt.  It is better than it was before.  The %100 thing was difficult, it invited the hoard because teamwork and a bit of tactical skill is/was too hard for many players.   

[BaldEagl]

Sounds like it's just right to me.  Seems like it would spread the fights out over a larger area reducing the hoards and making the game more fun.

I mean is this a "I'm so bad I couldn't stop one guy from taking my base so I blame HT" thread?

[flatiron1]

I got a capture today with the town up flag showing. Just as the first troops troops went in it changed from white to red.

[Meatwad]

Seriously? One guy takes an airfield by himself. No one wants to fight, just knock out a few buildings, ack and run M3s in. If something isn't done to adjust this I'm done. Worst thing to happen to this game in a long time.

Guess you never took a T-76 with all HE loadout, spawned very close to a town, killed all ack and buildings, and then ran an M-3 into it for a capture? Hate to burst your bubble, but this has happened before the update. I have done it myself personally a number of times.

If you had played AH1 back when it was live, you would of quit a long, long time ago. Only a handful of buildings back then plus ammo bunker.


 

[sky25]

Seriously? One guy takes an airfield by himself. No one wants to fight, just knock out a few buildings, ack and run M3s in. If something isn't done to adjust this I'm done. Worst thing to happen to this game in a long time.

I guy taking a field was the norm up until last June when they came out with the new version with new town layout... I have reached one conclusion. No matter what HTC does, there will be some that will hate it... Nothing can be done to please everyone..

[SectorNine50]

I kind of like the idea of more dynamic base ownership...  Makes the game much more exciting!

[MarineUS]

Guess you never took a T-76 with all HE loadout, spawned very close to a town, killed all ack and buildings, and then ran an M-3 into it for a capture? Hate to burst your bubble, but this has happened before the update. I have done it myself personally a number of times.

If you had played AH1 back when it was live, you would of quit a long, long time ago. Only a handful of buildings back then plus ammo bunker.


 

lol and there was a map room at the field

[Chilli]

New settings are AWESOME!!!  I agree if you can't stop one guy from capturing a field then, that is kind of lame on your part, not HTC's fault.

I have longed to see the game return to some resemblance of its old self, where small groups of players were rewarded for intelligent teamwork. 

It will take some time for the horde programmed players to adjust.  Sure you can be lazy and just fly to the biggest dar bar.  Do that and be prepared to loose bases that are undefended.  Here's an idea, scan the map, look for strengths and weakness and take part in a number of different roles.

The BULLCRAP  has been building up for way too long, and it has been due to the need for large numbers to capture fields.  Now, too many players are stuck in their old ways.  50% town captures may just be the shovel needed to clean it up.

For example, yesterday two goons were headed to a base that had been shut down, all hangars dead.  We repeatedly announced on country and range channel our approach and ETA.  We practically spammed to get any response.  Although there were still a good number of friendlies over the base, we got no intel.   We both arrive 5 minutes later and discover the friendlies zooming and porking the already porked airfield.  All of the town's ack was up as well as its flag.  After I raged for a lil bit, 3 came over and took the ack in town down.   A good part of the town was also down so I dropped my troops to give them extra incentive to get the buildings down.  Now 3 of the guys seemed to be working the town pretty effectively while another 3 were just zooming around the airfield, waiting for a hangar to pop to get an easy vulch kill.  Eventually, a couple of fighters came from another base and killed the goons.

As far as I know, it only took 1 person to thwart the base capture, and with a lot less effort (fly to field and kill to unarmed C47s).

I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE the capture system as it is, than the I need to be number uno in kills system.

[Bubbajj]

This may be all well and good in LW where there are 536,982 people there. It's a bit of a problem when my entire country consist of six people.

[Dantoo]

I'm fairly sure that with a determined effort, all by myself, employing skilful enterprise, and maybe a Tiger at the map room,  I can pretty well prevent any other single player taking the base I am defending as long it is only ever being attacked by that other single player alone.

Two of em, sheesh, then I might have to think, or maybe get another guy to help.  Next thing you know a blasted war would break out!  Curse these attack minded players starting trouble all over the map. Trouble makers all.  If we could only make it impossible for them to succeed by applying simple arena settings then we could all live in peace and maybe play WoW.

[DREDIOCK]

Hordewise I havent seen any change n behavior. When I log on I see see large blobs of darbars that just roll one base after the next wherever there is no green to defend them untill resistance is put up at which point they go to a different location where there is no green. And vise verse.

A few nights ago for example I logged on the Knights were attacking bases with a zero darbar on one side of the map while we were being attacked on the other side of the map where there were no defenders. Against one of the two countries bish or rooks I forget which. There were no fights at all.

So long as there are no base limits  that would force people to up over a wider front this is going to be how it is. Mark my words. All this did was make the bases easier to capture. And thats fine. I really dont care one way or the other how hard a base is to capture or what the dar height is.
But anyone thinking that this is going to change the horde behavior is kidding themselves. so long as the players are able to up an unlimited amount of planes from one area to attack another. Thats what we're going to have.

[RTHolmes]

disapointing to see certain bish squads running repeated 20-30 aircraft basetake missions over the weekend, despite the new easy captures.

it doesnt take 25 loaded P38s and 3 goons to take a base now (it never did actually), so why the horde?

[sky25]

disapointing to see certain bish squads running repeated 20-30 aircraft basetake missions over the weekend, despite the new easy captures.

it doesnt take 25 loaded P38s and 3 goons to take a base now (it never did actually), so why the horde?

You could probably ask the same question of the Rooks last night in LW Orange who were steamrolling bases with those same numbers. We were defending with maybe six players. But it was a lot of fun. We lost our bases but had fun defending them....

As for the 25 loaded P38's going to take a base. I remember them being attacked by a similar horde of 262's. Several 262 drivers landed alot of P38 kills.. It created combat.

I think that it would be hard for anyone to say that they cannot find a fight on any map these days..

[RTHolmes]

As for the 25 loaded P38's going to take a base. I remember them being attacked by a similar horde of 262's. Several 262 drivers landed alot of P38 kills.. It created combat.

I dont remember seeing 25 knit 262s at any point yesterday. When I was on it was just me and a couple other knits brave/stupid enough to wade into the horde, although I did see 2 knits flying jets.

saying horde basetake missions are designed to "create combat" is just ... disingenuous.

[Dadsguns]

Had those 25 38's came light I would believe that they were there to create a fight, but you said they were heavy, that sounds like they were there to shut down the base and hangers which in fact would prevent combat.  Had they came in noe that further would be from the truth of that statement of creating a fight.
Everything about your statement is contradicting in regards to creating combat.

Unless this is what you mean as combat......