A philosophical question

[lulu]

"Philosophical answer:

Because it's Blue.


wrongway"

 

But we have also a white color 


I found a different between f41a and f41d:

Rudder speed. In f41a it seems to fast or too slow.

Not sure.    

 

[FLS]

How did you test it?

[AWwrgwy]

How did you test it?

I think it's another philosophical question.

Rudder speed. In f41a it seems to fast or too slow.

We can call it "The Goldilocks Conundrum"


wrongway

[lulu]

"How did you test it?"

When i attempt to aim i have noted this difference or suspected it.

f4u-1a's rudder seems to reach it's maximum before (faster) respect to the f4u-d one.

Infact i cannot aim as well as in f4u-a.

In f4u-1a i overshoot a lot the target in conditions very similar to those
in which i have no problem when in f4u-d.

 

[FLS]

Try using a runway as a reference line. Fly both aircraft at the same speed and it should be easy to compare how fast and how far the nose moves over.

[Kingpin]

Maybe becouse it's one, if not the busiest, planes in the game to fly correctly.

FLS sir,

I read this thread as I too am interested in learning the nuances of the F4U (the -1D, in particular, as it is my carrier-borne AC of choice). 

You have used this term "busy" a couple times to describe the F4U, but it begs more questions than it answers IMO.

I assume this means you are actively using flaps, gear (perhaps trim controls?), etc. more than you would on other AC.  But I am more interested in understanding the hows and whys of this.  How are you using them and why is this more crucial in the Corsair (making it a more difficult AC to master) as opposed to another AC that is "less busy"? 

Could you give a detailed description of what you are doing differently (and why) in an F4U, say in a turning engagement with a Spit, compared to what the "less busy" Spit pilot might be doing in the same engagement? 

Any examples in this vein would be greatly appreciated.

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[FLS]

You seem to have me confused with BigRat. I'll let him explain what he means by "busy".

[Kingpin]

Sorry, I addressed my question to you, as I confused your replies with BigRat's.

So, same question above, now addressed to BigRat.

<S>

[Big Rat]

Kingpin,

One of the most critical parts to learning the Hog is learning the flap work, this is where you tend to get real busy with it.  The hog has the best flaps in the game in my oppinion but they are a double edged sword in a Corsair.  The Corsairs two main weakneses are accelleration and climb.  Both of which are useful in regaining E, so the Corsair is poor at regaining lost energy once spent.  Anytime you use your flaps you are slowing your plane down and therefore reducing the potential energy or your plane.  Now knowing this, you can see how flaps must be deployed to the correct amount to get done what's needed, but must be pulled back just as quickly to keep your energy drain to a minimum.  So the flap work is a constantly changing setting once in a dogfight with a Corsair.  You'll tend to change your flap setting about as often as you do your throttle settings in a corsair, which is pretty constant.  So between the flap work and throttle work, and throw in a very effective and usefull rudder in the mix, and you have a busy pilot.  Not saying that other planes can't be as busy, but the large flap envelope of the F4U's tends to make them busy over a wider speed range.

 
BigRat 

[Kingpin]

One of the most critical parts to learning the Hog is learning the flap work, this is where you tend to get real busy with it... but the large flap envelope of the F4U's tends to make them busy over a wider speed range.

BigRat,

Thanks for the reply.  Understood.  Though it is admittedly wiser to BnZ, I tend to fly the P51 utilizing the flaps to some extent when needed, most often in turning engagements, and particularly if I am completely "fangs out" to pull lead on a turning con whose E has been bled down.  So, I get the "put 'em in, take 'em out" thing to manage E as a general rule.  But, it sounds to me like their use in the F4U is even more frequent and possibly done during higher speed maneuvers as well.

I would like to learn more about this dynamic use of flaps in the Corsair from you if possible.  Can you please PM me times when you might be available for instruction in the TA for some Corsair flying?

Thanks again,

<S>

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F4U easy mode?  no way