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Offline Scherf

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #195 on: December 27, 2011, 02:31:36 PM »
Kew was fun last time I was there, some years ago now. Sooooo many distractions....

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Offline Martyn

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #196 on: December 28, 2011, 12:55:38 PM »
"Thank you for contacting the National Archives with your request for an estimate for the cost of copies of records. In view of the large number of pages to count in this request we are unable to process this estimate."

Doh!

I'm gonna split this into two tasks: -
1. Find out more about the document(s) - I presume we want to concentrate on tangible/physical flight data.
2. Visit the place with a view to finding out what their 'too much work to be bothered with' threshold is.



 
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #197 on: December 28, 2011, 01:43:50 PM »
to save makin 2 trips, use (this form) to have the documents retrieved from storage and waiting for you on your arrival. you can preorder 6 different docs.

do you have a decent digi camera to photograph the pages? you may want to practice to get the settings right before you go, pretty sure you cant use flash but theres details on the website. they supply copy stands which will be very useful if your camera has a tripod mounting screw socket.

you will also need a Reader's Ticket


edit: if you dont get round to it I could chip over there, but it will be end of Jan before I can take the time off.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #198 on: December 28, 2011, 02:47:38 PM »
would make an interesting target to shot at  :t +1
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Offline Martyn

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #199 on: December 28, 2011, 02:52:30 PM »
I have phone camera only. I want to investigate paper copies as I can scan them at work, which would be better than letting an amateur try to take pics. I don't know if the demi-gods at Hitech would like paper copies as well as digital. It all depends on the document size (i.e. number of pages). Also, I didn't realise what else you can get there, so I want to dive in and learn about it.

Furthermore I figure we may need other documentation later on (e.g. Wellington, Halifax, Lysander) and they may have some documentation on the evaluation of other non-British aircraft which may be useful too.

I will keep you guys up to date on progress.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #200 on: December 28, 2011, 09:59:22 PM »
Any place like this in the States? If so, I know where my next vacation is lol.
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Offline Baggy

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #201 on: December 29, 2011, 05:22:21 AM »
Not very helpful are they!

Here is another likely candidate - Fairey Firefly - AVIA 15/580
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #202 on: December 29, 2011, 09:46:12 PM »
Quote from: surfinn on December 28, 2011, 02:47:38 PM
would make an interesting target to shot at  :t +1

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #203 on: December 30, 2011, 02:14:46 AM »
Quote from: surfinn on December 28, 2011, 02:47:38 PM
would make an interesting target to shot at  :t +1


Look at the birdie and smile, please ignore the flash surfinn  :lol






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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #204 on: December 30, 2011, 07:45:39 AM »
Quote from: Martyn on December 28, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
I have phone camera only. I want to investigate paper copies as I can scan them at work, which would be better than letting an amateur try to take pics. I don't know if the demi-gods at Hitech would like paper copies as well as digital. It all depends on the document size (i.e. number of pages). Also, I didn't realise what else you can get there, so I want to dive in and learn about it.

the archive has the original docs which you can look at and photograph onsite in the reading room for free. or they can supply you with scans but that costs £200 as mentioned earlier.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #205 on: December 30, 2011, 09:53:24 AM »
Quote from: nrshida on December 30, 2011, 02:14:46 AM

Look at the birdie and smile, please ignore the flash surfinn  :lol

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #206 on: December 30, 2011, 10:10:37 AM »
Quote from: Pigslilspaz on December 28, 2011, 09:59:22 PM
Any place like this in the States? If so, I know where my next vacation is lol.

Library of Congress?
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #207 on: January 01, 2012, 07:54:57 AM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on December 30, 2011, 10:10:37 AM
Library of Congress?

 :bhead :bhead :bhead

Well I just had a stupid.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #208 on: January 06, 2012, 09:16:04 AM »
I've ordered paper copies. I now have to wait until they've been copied and are available for pick up, then I'll pootle up to Kew pick them up and have a nosy around.

My intention is to scan and then send them to the Gods at AH (if they want copies) so that we can hopefully have this nice little bird available some day.

As we now (or shortly) will have a new classification of aircraft, I wonder if we should also consider the Lysander next as it is a completely different animal to the Storch and yet falls into the same category ... ? Or does it? Comments?

I'm not sure that the Lysander was actually used in the same way as the Storch. Anyone know?
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #209 on: January 06, 2012, 10:20:25 AM »
Quote from: Martyn on January 06, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
My intention is to scan and then send them to the Gods at AH (if they want copies)

We certainly do Martyn. Upload and share please. The documentation is now in the public domain after all  :old:
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