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Offline dirtdart

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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2011, 06:46:36 AM »
PJ it's also the ebb and flow of personality.  There are guys in this thread who attack any post without documentation, and documentation must be linked etc.... Then there are guys who will further dispute the veracity of the documentation.  So, when guys say the _____ had ____ without evidence beyond innuendo, then the pot is stirred.  Especially when you have a decade of this back and forth. 
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2011, 06:52:48 AM »
The scientific research that has gone into the designs of these planes is based on natural sciencies like physics and math, exact sciencies. They leave zero room for speculation. Either something is or it isn't.

It is like in any academic research. Either you provide a source or do the research which can be verified by others and then you *are* the source. There's really no two ways about it.

Who point the above fact out aren't the idiots. Idiots are the dimwits that can't crasp the concept no matter how many times it is explained to them and then think that their persona is being attacked and start crying about it..
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2011, 06:57:54 AM »
The scientific research that has gone into the designs of these planes is based on natural sciencies like physics and math, exact sciencies. They leave zero room for speculation. Either something is or it isn't.

It is like in any academic research. Either you provide a source or do the research which can be verified by others and then you *are* the source. There's really no two ways about it.

Who point the above fact out aren't the idiots. Idiots are the dimwits that can't crasp the concept no matter how many times it is explained to them and then think that their persona is being attacked and start crying about it..

I didn't name any names, WMaker. As I say. I appreciate the idea that we argue free of ad hominem attacks - and, as corollary, that we do not interpret legitimate questioning as ad hominem.


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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2011, 07:04:38 AM »
As I say. I appreciate the idea that we argue free of ad hominem attacks - and, as corollary, that we do not interpret legitimate questioning as ad hominem.

I completely agree with you and I'm guilty of loosing my temper. The reason for that is the frustration that some people bring by posting complete Bravo Sierra over and over and over again and then being totally obtuse to any sources or refuting arguments. These kind of individuals dramatically worsen the signal/noise -ratio of any thread a through that greatly diminish the value of the whole BBS itself.
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2011, 08:16:50 AM »
I completely agree with you and I'm guilty of loosing my temper. The reason for that is the frustration that some people bring by posting complete Bravo Sierra over and over and over again and then being totally obtuse to any sources or refuting arguments. These kind of individuals dramatically worsen the signal/noise -ratio of any thread a through that greatly diminish the value of the whole BBS itself.

Like I say, it didn't really bother me. I'm always kidding around. For your own peace of mind, though, remember that reason is a currency and, like any currency, is only negotiable in markets that accept it. I know how frustrating these things can be, believe me. Twain said something famous along these lines but I'll refrain.
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2011, 08:22:10 AM »
Twain said something famous along these lines but I'll refrain.

heh.

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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2011, 08:40:14 AM »
heh.

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You laugh, but in this case, the Dilbert version of the Twain quote is probably more appropos. I just don't want to get into the flaming.
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2011, 09:44:29 AM »
PJ, you and WMaker and your not-so-veiled insults can take a flying leap for all I care.

Do you even know the definition of an ad hominem attack? Becuase WMaker's main repertiore is to make them. I'm sure if you 2 hash it out he'll bring you up to speed on the best methods and uses of them.

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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2011, 11:42:36 AM »
PJ, you and WMaker and your not-so-veiled insults can take a flying leap for all I care.

Do you even know the definition of an ad hominem attack? Becuase WMaker's main repertiore is to make them. I'm sure if you 2 hash it out he'll bring you up to speed on the best methods and uses of them.

You seem to need a reading comprehension plug-in aswell. :) What a waste of prefectly good oxygen.
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2011, 11:44:46 AM »
And here I though I was being a model of diplomatic ambiguity... Okay, let the lashing out continue apace!
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2011, 01:25:49 PM »
Krusty,

Provide a source for the claim that the automatic flaps were for green pilots.  Given how strongly you are backing that statement I am sure you have a source, right?
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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 01:08:04 AM »
Hmm, maybe the system detects that AoA is increasing and G is declining and tries to maintain a certain equilibrium...

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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2011, 11:03:08 AM »
PJ, you and WMaker and your not-so-veiled insults can take a flying leap for all I care.

Do you even know the definition of an ad hominem attack? Becuase WMaker's main repertiore is to make them. I'm sure if you 2 hash it out he'll bring you up to speed on the best methods and uses of them.
You would think at some point you might catch on that it may indeed be you that's the issue.

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Re: N1K2 Flaps
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2011, 11:06:28 AM »
Karnak, you confuse defending the position with defending myself. It only comes down to personal attacks with some of these folks. I very well could be wrong in the nature of the flaps, but that doesn't excuse the behavior and tone of the responses towards me.


Slash, before you hitch your wagon to that particular high horse, you should know that I dared question the national pride invested in WMaker's Brewster as modeled in-game. He went into such an expansive tyrade it persists to this day. He has told me he will follow me around and refute anything I post on the forums and (to paraphrase) make me miserable in response to my questioning the modeling of the BREW.

He's true to his words but he has no moral ground to stand on. Just so you know some of the back story as to why he can't resist insulting or picking on me in any thread I visit.

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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
I'm not hitching my wagon to anything. You're one of the biggest jokes in AH and that somehow escapes you.