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Offline Dead Man Flying

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2011, 02:07:51 PM »
lol the fact it paid off is because I still had too much fuel and am flying like crap from taking 2 years off. Last time I checked it was a game anyway. What is Risk vs Reward when there is also Fun vs Bore..

He HOed and you refused.  That simply encouraged him to continue that tactic because it put him at no risk.  I'm pretty sure it was fun for him in any event, and based on what you just said, not HOing would have simply delayed the inevitable.  If he was HOing you while bemoaning its use, then he was certainly hypocritical.


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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2011, 04:39:51 PM »
It depends on what kind of player you are.

If your skillless, or a win the war at all cost type, your going to HO. Your going to have all of these excellent reasons why you MUST HO.

"Im clearing the air space so the buffs can get in"
"Im flying a 110,tiffy, yada-yada-yada"
"my plane is out classed"
"I'm out numbered"
"I'm defending my base"
"he was in my gunsites"
Hmm fugi... am i win the warz type then? because i can name 2 of those that i have said before. Especially the "he was in my gunsights" quote
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2011, 05:25:06 PM »
It depends on what kind of player you are.

If your skillless, or a win the war at all cost type, your going to HO. Your going to have all of these excellent reasons why you MUST HO.

"Im clearing the air space so the buffs can get in"
"Im flying a 110,tiffy, yada-yada-yada"
"my plane is out classed"
"I'm out numbered"
"I'm defending my base"
"he was in my gunsites"

If on the other hand you play this game to have dogfights....

You won't HO on the first pass
You will avoid any head on pass that you can after that
If you should pass nose to nose you won't fire

To me this game is about out flying the other guy and shooting him down. If all I wanted to do was rack up kills I can play Xbox. I try to NEVER fire on a head to head pass, should I find myself in one (I work very hard NOT to be in that position). Any one HOing me has already conceded the fight to me. They have admitted that they can not out fly me and get the kill shot other than HOin. When I do finally give up and start HOin every loser that comes at me I know its time to take a break. A man can only take so much  :D

So you can't shoot at anyone, at any point, from any front facing visible angle, or you haven't out flown them?
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2011, 08:41:04 PM »
He HOed and you refused.  That simply encouraged him to continue that tactic because it put him at no risk.  I'm pretty sure it was fun for him in any event, and based on what you just said, not HOing would have simply delayed the inevitable.  If he was HOing you while bemoaning its use, then he was certainly hypocritical.


And by scoring a kill he probably thinks he accomplished something
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2011, 09:26:10 PM »
Hmm fugi... am i win the warz type then? because i can name 2 of those that i have said before. Especially the "he was in my gunsights" quote

well if the shoe fits.....  :devil

So you can't shoot at anyone, at any point, from any front facing visible angle, or you haven't out flown them?

It's not that I "can't" I just prefer not to. I like to maneuver until I'm behind their 3-9 line and THEN take my shot.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2011, 02:16:06 AM »
When to ho?
I never do except two cases:
- the opponent is a heavy momber with drones.
- the opponent is playing the "balzing guns from 1000 then extend to 5k away, return, repeat" game. After the 5th-6th pass i often lose control and ho back. I know its wrong...  shame on me.
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2011, 06:08:32 AM »
When to ho?
I never do except two cases:
- the opponent is a heavy momber with drones.
- the opponent is playing the "balzing guns from 1000 then extend to 5k away, return, repeat" game. After the 5th-6th pass i often lose control and ho back. I know its wrong...  shame on me.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2011, 06:39:47 AM »
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2011, 07:21:57 AM »
And by scoring a kill he probably thinks he accomplished something

Likely.  At what point do we consider a kill an "accomplishment?"  When neither pilot HOs?  When neither pilot is rusty, flying a plane that's a poor match, and using way too much fuel? 

One man's trash is another man's gold I suppose.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2011, 08:20:48 AM »
Likely.  At what point do we consider a kill an "accomplishment?"  When neither pilot HOs?  When neither pilot is rusty, flying a plane that's a poor match, and using way too much fuel?  

One man's trash is another man's gold I suppose.

When one feels a sense of accomplishment it was an accomplishment for him.

For me, any individual 1v1 kill is always an accomplishment if the pilot I flew against put up a good fight and made me earn it.  I also feel accomplishment when I am able to control multi plane engagements/situations.  Whether that be a dogfight against 3-4, or when I am hovering above a swarm and have 1 or 2 coalt/above me that I also need to deal with.

RTBing and landing is necessary because it completes the success.  I would use the analogy of eating something delicious.  The taste itself is great but the act of swallowing is completion.  :D

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2011, 10:05:15 AM »
When one feels a sense of accomplishment it was an accomplishment for him.

Exactly.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2011, 11:03:49 AM »
It's OK to HO when you're against a Spit9 ... :rock

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2011, 11:06:34 AM »
It's OK to HO when you're against a Spit9 ... :rock


Hah!  I forgot about The Spitfire Exception.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #103 on: September 02, 2011, 11:22:49 AM »

Hah!  I forgot about The Spitfire Exception.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #104 on: September 02, 2011, 11:42:30 AM »

Hah!  I forgot about The Spitfire Exception.

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