Please rename "Axis vs Allies" arena to "SEA 3"

[icepac]

Icepac, if nothing else, you generated a great discussion


Now, I suggested that icepac has the ability to do anything he wants in the custom arena.  Go build a map with the original war planeset.  Go build more maps because each map with the period has to be built with the default settings that when loaded, has the planeset he wants.

The maps don't matter.

The entire purpose is having a month accurate rolling planeset so we see the same matchups that occurred in the real war.

[Zoney]

Sorry Ice, I kinda helped this thread get off subject mate <S>

[Oldman731]

The maps don't matter.

The entire purpose is month accurate rolling planeset so we see the same matchups that occurred in the real war.

As Jimson and others have said, this has been done before.  It requires much work from the staff, because once you get to 1942 the plane set has to be modified nearly every day.

The RPS was a lot of fun and generated a lot of interest.  The first time.  The next time it was tried the interest dropped off, for the reason it drops off in AvA generally.  People want to fly with their squads and/or in their favorite plane.  Also related:  the same matchups that occurred in the real war make for great history but not always for great sport.  Flying 109G6s against Spit 9s (or P-40s against Zekes) got old fast for a lot of people.

The staff works very hard to run weekly setups that do emulate a particular part of the war, and varies those setups to cover virtually all periods of the war.  You have the equivalent of an RPS, it just takes longer than a month.

- oldman

[icepac]

What percentage of the current player base was around back then?

Can you speak for the people who have never experienced it here?

[Wiley]

The RPS was a lot of fun and generated a lot of interest.  The first time.

So it worked the first time they tried it, and then people realized why it's no fun to be on the disadvantaged side?  Anytime I've seen it, the numbers were on the side with the greatest advantage beating down a few masochists who like flying at a disadvantage.

Wiley.

[Karnak]

People have no taste. The Ki-84 is by far the finest plane in this game.

It isn't just that.  It is the lack of attention to detail if it isn't American or German.  We only have three reasonably complete planesets (US,UK, Germany) so the sample size isn't high, but the frequent misuse of the Spitfire Mk IX and what the Spitfire Mk VIII and XVI are and how to use them.  Those are not complicated things, far simpler than the intricacies of Luftwaffe development and deployment, but you frequently see the long out of service 1942 Spitfire Mk IX used for late 1944 and 1945 settings.  In the current setting they were going to add the very much more potent Spitfire Mk VIII before the Mk IX, I guess assuming that 8 is smaller than 9 so it must be earlier.

It just feels like if it isn't American or German they aren't really interested.  They just seem to do the minimum they can get away with for those nations.

[Karnak]

People have no taste. The Ki-84 is by far the finest plane in this game.

It isn't just that.  It is the lack of attention to detail if it isn't American or German.  We only have three reasonably complete planesets (US,UK, Germany) so the sample size isn't high, but the frequent misuse of the Spitfire Mk IX and what the Spitfire Mk VIII and XVI are and how to use them.  Those are not complicated things, far simpler than the intricacies of Luftwaffe development and deployment, but you frequently see the long out of service 1942 Spitfire Mk IX used for late 1944 and 1945 settings.  In the current setting they were going to add the very much more potent Spitfire Mk VIII before the Mk IX, I guess assuming that 8 is smaller than 9 so it must be earlier.

It just feels like if it isn't American or German they aren't really interested.  They just seem to do the minimum they can get away with for those nations.

[captain1ma]

we have a 1 week rolling planeset running, maybe that would work for you icepac? could we expect you in there this week?

[Raphael]

come on fellows its fun! just log in already!



otherwise, us axis dweebs will clear the desert 

[LCADolby]

  That's an Emil 

[jimson]

.  In the current setting they were going to add the very much more potent Spitfire Mk VIII before the Mk IX, I guess assuming that 8 is smaller than 9 so it must be earlier.

This particular set up was written long ago by others and no one mentioned these things back then.

I am certainly not a scholar on every WW2 plane model ever built.

Once it was brought up this time, we made the adjustments.

We don't always get everything right, but we do try to balance things between accuracy and playability.

[Raphael]

That's an Emil 

Of course it is! It's all that I fly in that arena all the time in this current awesome planeset

[ROC]

The maps don't matter?  I think now you are just being deliberately argumentative.  Of course they matter.  I thought you said you wanted an automated system? If you do, then the maps are created with the default planes built in.  The ONLY way you will get a map to load automatically with a certain plane set is to create the map with those planes built in.  Of course they matter.  If you don't do it that way, you have no choice but to have the AvA guys manually change the manually created tables and set the arena up.

You said this was easy, I went on the assumption you knew what you were talking about. 

Now you want a Month accurate planeset, I'm confused, you started out saying that when the war was won you wanted the new rolling planeset to automatically load up.  It was easy, remember?

You are changing your argument again, you really need to focus.  I'm pretty much done with you though, you aren't willing to accept that concept that you might not know what you are talking about but are convinced everyone else is wrong.  Can't teach anyone anything that way.

[LCADolby]

You can lead a horse to water...

[Melvin]

The AvA arena is by far the best arena in Aces High for guys like me that get sick of the Spit V Spit, etc. rowdiness of the MA and DA. Some of the best fights I've ever had occurred in this arena and I feel that it is primarily due to the planesets that are incorporated. (Most of the regulars are pretty hip cats too.)

I frequented that place quite often at one time and would do so again if the numbers would come up slightly. Alas, the last few times I stopped in, there was no fighting to be found.

If I'm not dead tired after work tomorrow, I'll swing in for the big squad night and encourage others to do the same. You really don't know what you're missing if you haven't engaged in a historically accurate furball.