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Offline Torquila

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Replace 190a8 with a9!
« on: May 03, 2012, 09:09:33 AM »
According to "teh internetz"; the 190a9 had a more powerful engine, but basically the same gun packages/etc.

Can we have this one instead of the a8?

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 10:09:22 AM »
No.  Maybe HTC can add the Fw190A-9, but removing the Fw190A-8 would open a large gap in the Fw190 lineup, replacing the common Fw190A-8 with the later and rare Fw190A-9.  That would make absolutely no sense.  Further, why ever remove an existing unit?

Before you use the Bf109G-10 as an example, understand that we never had the Bf109G-10 modeled in AH.  We had a Bf109K-4 that was named a Bf109G-10 so that it could have the 20mm motorkannon and gondolas.  Its performance was always that of a Bf109K-4 though, significantly faster than the Bf109G-10 would have been.

The Fw190 we really need is something like the Fw190A-2 though.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 11:54:51 AM »
A9 is heavier and only slightly powerful and under certain altitude even slower than A8. I'm not sure if it is "better" aircraft. Up high it would probably be a better bomber interceptor but I bet we are better off with A8.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 12:39:47 PM »
A9 is heavier and only slightly powerful and under certain altitude even slower than A8. I'm not sure if it is "better" aircraft. Up high it would probably be a better bomber interceptor but I bet we are better off with A8.

I haven't yet gotten exactly clear picture of the power outputs but yeh it's slightly heavier. The top speed on the deck would be there with the F4U-1A, P-51D and 190K-4.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 01:24:12 PM »
It would be nice if they could correct the weight / armor issue on the A8 first. Then there is the 6 year (or so) old tailwheel bug. I agree the A2 would be a excellent addition to the family, the A4 as well.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 02:53:03 PM »
Everyone knows that the current FW-190A8 in AH is actually using the flight model of the Bolton-Paul Defiant and the engine of the Breda ba.88 Lince.

It weighs approximately 45,000 kg more than it should, and it can't even break mach in a dive.

 
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 03:31:58 PM »
replaze deh p51 with teh F-16.

it haz better engyn!

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »
Everyone knows that the current FW-190A8 in AH is actually using the flight model of the Bolton-Paul Defiant and the engine of the Breda ba.88 Lince.

It weighs approximately 45,000 kg more than it should, and it can't even break mach in a dive.

And it is missing the air to air Ruhrstahl X4 missiles it was supposed to have!  :mad:
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 04:16:29 PM »
lulz

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 04:36:33 PM »
According to Fw data the A-9 was always faster than non-boosted A-8. The A-8 with C3-injection (erhöhte Notleistung) was always slower than the A-9 in the lower gear, it was a tad faster in high gear between 3.75 and 5.75 km altitude.
A-8 achieved max speed at ~ 5.5km, A-9 had this speed (and more) between 6 and 7.5 km.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 04:58:03 PM »


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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 05:13:38 PM »
According to "teh internetz"; the 190a9 had a more powerful engine, but basically the same gun packages/etc.

Can we have this one instead of the a8?

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Well now this whole thing is just silly and this thread is nothing more than spam to multiple threads already on this subject, it unfortunatley should be shut down although I sympasize to a very slim degree. 

Unless you're saying AH would do better or should, for some redunculous idea, without a Fw190A-8, one of the most produced (and sucessful) fighter aircraft varients of the second world war?...  do elaborate. :D

I agree this late-war mmo arena centred game genre could greatly benefit from the adition of a Fw190A-9, but it shouldn't come at any expense or (at least I hope) to the Fw190A-8.  If anything, a couple more A-8s should be added to teh game (well, one or two A-8s, maybe another F-8 or remodeled F-8... anywho).


Everyone knows that the current FW-190A8 in AH is actually using the flight model of the Bolton-Paul Defiant and the engine of the Breda ba.88 Lince.

It weighs approximately 45,000 kg more than it should, and it can't even break mach in a dive.

 

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 06:55:48 PM »
According to "teh internetz"; the 190a9 had a more powerful engine, but basically the same gun packages/etc.

Can we have this one instead of the a8?

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 08:45:07 PM »
Has it now become a monthly ritual to have a 'we want any 190A but the one we have" thread?
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 07:15:30 AM »
 Personally I like the 190A5 best of all the 190s in the game and some guys are deadly in it.