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Offline Torquila

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2012, 12:15:50 PM »
Le Karnak ez right...< MOAR 190s!!!!

MOOOARRR!!!

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2012, 12:46:55 PM »
Has it now become a monthly ritual to have a 'we want any 190A but the one we have" thread?
I wish they'd just cut out the middleman and ask for what they really want.  Hitech, can they please have a 190 with 4x20mm that handles like the A5?  Kthxbye.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2012, 12:54:20 PM »
I wish they'd just cut out the middleman and ask for what they really want.  Hitech, can they please have a 190 with 4x20mm that handles like the A5?  Kthxbye.

 :rolleyes:

Last time I looked 190A-5 had four 20mms.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 12:57:43 PM »
:rolleyes:

Last time I looked 190A-5 had four 20mms.

Right.  My apologies, I forgot about the gondolas.

Hitech, can they please have a 190 with 4x20mm internal like the A8 that handles like a slick A5?  Kthxbye.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2012, 01:00:44 PM »
Right.  My apologies, I forgot about the gondolas.

What gondolas?

Try checking your facts before your next "witty" (or trying to be) remark.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2012, 01:04:15 PM »
The entire discussion has devolved into farce.  It's about all it's good for.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2012, 01:35:08 PM »
Wmaker,

In fairness, the 20mm cannons on the Fw190A-5 are badly matched being two good MG151/20s and two mediocre 20mm MG/FF cannons.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 04:22:14 PM »
Has it now become a monthly ritual to have a 'we want any 190A but the one we have" thread?

Aparently.....  flak jacket - check, koolaide - check......     :airplane:
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 04:36:13 PM »
Personally I like the 190A5 best of all the 190s in the game and some guys are deadly in it.

It is very stable and a pleasure to fly and fight with when you don't have to worry (or suddenly need to) about getting jumped by another or multiple enemy A/C... something that depending on the map, time, atmospheric conditions, etc. - is hit or miss.  In which case the A-8 can dive away faster (and better WEP), allowing a better chance for escape and to reset with an advantage (it however can not maneuver its way out of trouble as easily as an A-5 or even a D-9 imho).  And of cource, the D-9 is one of the faster planes in the MA, able to disengage from most fights and opponents at will.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 06:40:38 PM »
20mm MG/FF cannons
MG FF/M, small but important difference.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2012, 06:54:26 PM »
MG FF/M, small but important difference.
Granted, but the relevant bit, their muzzle velocity, is still the same.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2012, 07:10:25 PM »
MGFF have proven themselves to be quite effective in both 109Es and 110Cs in early scenarios. People like to dis them saying they are worthless -- but they are 20mm and they still land hits. The 20mm on the A5 are still quite helpful. So, complain if you must, but the 4x20mm loadout on the A5 is still 4x20mm on the A5.

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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2012, 07:57:18 PM »
MGFF have proven themselves to be quite effective in both 109Es and 110Cs in early scenarios. People like to dis them saying they are worthless -- but they are 20mm and they still land hits. The 20mm on the A5 are still quite helpful. So, complain if you must, but the 4x20mm loadout on the A5 is still 4x20mm on the A5.
They are not worthless, but they are ill matched when paired with MG151/20s.  They are also mediocre for 20mm cannons.
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2012, 11:02:36 PM »
So there I was, flat on my back, reading a book I've had since I was a kid, trying to regain some enthusiasm for AH.

And there it was!  Right from "Airwar Against Hitler's Germany".  Written for kids to understand :)

"The Luftwaffe interceptors were actually hampered by their heavy firepower.  Loaded down, with ammunition, bombs and rockets to use against the bombers, the Me109s and FW190s were sluggish and hard to fly in combat with the American escort fighters."

Upon reading this great revelation, my head went right to the latest 190A8 thread in AH :)

Hmmm.  190A5.  Air to air fighter, dealing with RAF fighters and medium bombers over France.....

190A8  Bomber interceptor up gunned and up armored to deal with 4 engined bombers over Germany.....Not as nimble, but more firepower to shoot lumbering bombers....Not so good against fighters.....

Who'da thunk it? :)
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Re: Replace 190a8 with a9!
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2012, 12:38:32 AM »
So there I was, flat on my back, reading a book I've had since I was a kid, trying to regain some enthusiasm for AH.

And there it was!  Right from "Airwar Against Hitler's Germany".  Written for kids to understand :)

"The Luftwaffe interceptors were actually hampered by their heavy firepower.  Loaded down, with ammunition, bombs and rockets to use against the bombers, the Me109s and FW190s were sluggish and hard to fly in combat with the American escort fighters."

Upon reading this great revelation, my head went right to the latest 190A8 thread in AH :)

Hmmm.  190A5.  Air to air fighter, dealing with RAF fighters and medium bombers over France.....

190A8  Bomber interceptor up gunned and up armored to deal with 4 engined bombers over Germany.....Not as nimble, but more firepower to shoot lumbering bombers....Not so good against fighters.....

Who'da thunk it? :)


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  I mean I love the A8 but it is what it is!   all about the guns!





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