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Offline auscar

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #150 on: May 31, 2012, 05:37:55 PM »
Oh how I've changed I was Auscar, then rtAuscar but now I'm just a Kiwi with a 1.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #151 on: May 31, 2012, 05:40:37 PM »
^^^^^ it sure is


simples.....dont get in front of their guns....
your fault if you do

nuff said

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #152 on: May 31, 2012, 05:44:04 PM »
When people start talking about what happened in the war....blah blah blah. This is a game and "what happened in the war" has very little relevance here.

It's all in how you like to play the game.

If you like to get kills and don't care about a cartoon death, you HO

If you like dog fighting and pretending your a wwii fighter pilot, you don't.

It is that simple.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #153 on: May 31, 2012, 05:47:42 PM »
When people start talking about what happened in the war....blah blah blah. This is a game and "what happened in the war" has very little relevance here.

It's all in how you like to play the game.

If you like to get kills and don't care about a cartoon death, you HO

If you like dog fighting and pretending your a wwii fighter pilot, you don't.

It is that simple.

Again more elitist snobbery, no more correct than the others.

If you don't care about death, you don't bother evading when you pick up a tail. You don't look around. You don't pull up when the ground is looming in your viewscreen. You don't shoot your guns. There's tons of stuff you don't do if you don't care about cartoon death. You cannot pin this all on a single minor fraction of all the options available.

And many people that like dogfighting and pretending they're WW2 pilots HO as well.


P.S. You're saying very little relevance in this game, but then claim an elitist high road for those that TRY to recreate historic relevance. Make up your mind and stick to your argument.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #154 on: May 31, 2012, 05:59:43 PM »
Wiley,

This game and playing it as a game is not the point for those complaining. It's their escape into a fantasy world that operates the way they can't have in real life for a few hours a night. Thus the complaining and "Nanny Peer Police" to force others to comply to their fantasy.

It's a momentairy window looking at the real reason for crying foul to others conduct, assuming superiority becasue of defineing loftier motivations to the reasons for participation with a constant reminder of the differences in their level versus ours. And mistaking a cartoon game for realism and trying to impose personal values on others in a childs game for percieved transgressions.

What they won't do is tell the truth. HTC has no rule against HOing and dosen't care if you get HO'd. You pays your $14.95 and takes your chances in the wolf pit. When you can't take it any longer you stop paying your subscription and leave. Many linger on sniping out a few last vestages of internet revenge against this forum for their own failure to enjoy their AH experience by blaming us, our bad conduct, and lesser skillz for their lost fantasy.

They have no real argument but to Bloviate about higher ideals, superior levels, and our lesser abilities in a childs game populated by adults. Or to organise a "Nanny Peer Police" to punish us by trying to make us beleive we are some how lesser men than them for the way we choose to play in a childs game.

Daddy, Daddy what are you doing on your computer. Nothing, just playing in a childs game. Wow daddy can I play too, I'm a child? No son you aren't quite old enough yet to grasp the complexities of playing in a childs game. You will just run around willy nilly and play like a child upsetting the real order of things. Now run along and play with your games son.

Uh, OK Daddy.... :huh
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #155 on: May 31, 2012, 06:07:38 PM »
I can explain to you and show how rolling scissors is lame, pointless, and boring as hell (which I do believe), but if I condemn somebody else for doing it it only speaks badly about ME, not about them.

 I agree about the rolling scissors too and I speak as someone who spent many hours fighting in the DA with nothing much but rolling scissors going on. Whilst it is a fun type of fight to learn, when it becomes all there is in the fight it's boring and so very predictable. So at some point I subconsciously decided to start learning other things.
 
 One of the first things I decided to learn about was the skill of successful sustained turning. I realised that alot of people I was regularly dueling agreed that the few players who had mastered the sustained turn were being lame when they defeated our predictable rolling scissors. So when I had my change of interest highlighted I studied one of these sustained turnign guys and instantly i'm learning new things and suddenly realised it was not a lame thing to do at all, but logical, like any chess player would do to combat the enemies talents. So I ended up with another style to develop and mix in with all the other types of fight I have learned over the years of addiction to this game. We all start flying this game roughly on instinct with 0% knowledge and experience. It is very easy to develope your skills into a pidgeon hole if you don't look around and enjoy the different ways people will try to kill you in the air.

  
 So i think the moral of the story is that by complaining about the enemy's tactics we not only detract from our own enjoyment but we also destroy any paths to self improvement. It does matter who you are or how good you think you are, the most effective pilot is the one who knows the most about our cartoon combat. Someone who springs to mind would be Bruv. He is not perhaps the master of any particular move or tactic, but he has a wide range of experience in what a successfully fighter pilot should do in a very wide range of situations. This makes him one of the most formidable threats you can encounter in the main arenas. It is because he does not put himself in boxes with regard to playing style. There are many players like this, some 'famous' and others far more undiscovered. Some are even discredited for how they play.

 As to hoing specifically. I rarely ho in the LWA but sometimes I feel like it and do. I would never HO in a 1 on 1 purely because I don't enjoy it as much but that doesn't mean you can't ho me. If you hate people who HO in the LWA I suggest you give it a try once in a while when the situation demands it. Shaking the dice on a ho every encounter would be boring but no more boring than never shaking the dice.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 06:11:04 PM by mechanic »
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #156 on: May 31, 2012, 06:11:59 PM »
To krusty:
"couse i can shout as loud as i can... noone gives a damn about it. I just cant get why noone gives a damn about it."

You talk about snobbery yet you might be the perfect gentleman....  
Yea im an elitist from the worst kind and i have the lowest opinion about hoers, just like vulchers, pickers, runners, endless BnZer awesomenesses, double teamers etc. Yes, if i do that, then i hate myself. And aye, in my elitism i respect those who are willing to give each other some quality engagement instead of deciding the outcome of the "fight" (lmao) in a 2 seconds absolutely no skill move.

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Offline leitwolf

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #157 on: May 31, 2012, 06:22:23 PM »
A blonde walks down the street. She sees a banana peel and laments "oh no, i'm gonna slip and fall again!"

The banana is our Head-On. I see lots of blondes here. :neener:
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Offline Krusty

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #158 on: May 31, 2012, 06:23:32 PM »
Debrody, you don't need to insult me via PM and then play the innocent card here in the thread.


The very fact you are so biased you hate people that don't fly the way YOU want them to is a sign of closed mind.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #159 on: May 31, 2012, 06:24:06 PM »
The very fact you are so biased you hate people that don't fly the way YOU want them to is a sign of closed mind.
Glad you got it.
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Offline Krusty

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #160 on: May 31, 2012, 06:31:13 PM »
Glad you got it.

Sadly, going by your insults via other channels, you did not get it.

Offline Debrody

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #161 on: May 31, 2012, 06:38:38 PM »
Where i insulted you?
You called some people elitist and snobist here, i told you "i got an opinion about you". Sooo hardcore...  anyway, take it as you want, still an 1:1 so idk why you are so upset. At least i wasnt a rat and did not throw it out publically.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #162 on: May 31, 2012, 06:49:00 PM »
Gotta agree with debrody. If you're going to go and throw out personal insults, PM's are better than the general discussion forum.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #163 on: May 31, 2012, 07:00:10 PM »
He's playing it off as if it was nothing. It was something. Trust me. He further insults me by calling me a rat for pointing out how biased his and fugi's comments were.


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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #164 on: May 31, 2012, 07:11:38 PM »
Again more elitist snobbery, no more correct than the others.

If you don't care about death, you don't bother evading when you pick up a tail. You don't look around. You don't pull up when the ground is looming in your viewscreen. You don't shoot your guns. There's tons of stuff you don't do if you don't care about cartoon death. You cannot pin this all on a single minor fraction of all the options available.

And many people that like dogfighting and pretending they're WW2 pilots HO as well.


P.S. You're saying very little relevance in this game, but then claim an elitist high road for those that TRY to recreate historic relevance. Make up your mind and stick to your argument.

It's not "elitist" at all, I posted a very simple and easy to understand opinion on the "HO Philosphy" as requested.

you go for the HO if all you want is a kill, you don't if you prefer to fight it out.  You can twist my words any way you want, but I said what I mean, not what you think I mean.

As for your opinion, I care for yours about as much as you care for mine.