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Offline HighTone

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Re: Me410
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2012, 09:33:26 AM »
Everyone that was expecting a German P38, should of either cracked open a book or listened to some of the more knowledgeable folks on this board as to what this plane was going to handle like, and ya might not of been so disappointed in it.

But I think some folks just counted the cannons on it and voted.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2012, 09:37:08 AM »
F4U4....  whew!!
I would try it in smaller steps, bud  :lol
190s first, then ponies, jugs, jaks, 38s, 109s, lalas, ki84s, spits, hurries, brewsters, zeeks...  and then! then the UFO-4   :D
Seriously speaking, i dont think i can ever be able to handle a well-flown jug in it. Gonna try the inpossible anyway.

Looking at stats alone, I think the only thing that the 410 would beat are P40s, P39s. 190s would just out scissor the damn thing. But we'll see.  :D 

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2012, 09:39:49 AM »
buff hunting,  killing gvs,  thousands of rounds to milk buildings with,  a nice controllable stall.  

I'm quite surprised at how much I enjoyed playing with it because my initial reaction was   :rolleyes: waste of time another Luft HO mobile.    I guess the guys who wanted to combine the brewster with the 110  are sorely disappointed.

Now can we go back to the more sensible choices like the YAK3 and METEOR!!     :lol
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Re: Me410
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2012, 09:59:32 AM »
Everyone that was expecting a German P38, should of either cracked open a book or listened to some of the more knowledgeable folks on this board as to what this plane was going to handle like, and ya might not of been so disappointed in it.

But I think some folks just counted the cannons on it and voted.

isn t it a german p38, i gues the p38 isn t much better, thats my first expirence maybe im wrong

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Re: Me410
« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2012, 10:31:05 AM »
Seems it it modeled a bit shy of the often quoted 388 - 390 mph top speed. The Germans also seemed to think it had a significant speed and climb advantage over the 110G, but who knows what "significant" means. I'm surprised that it actually climbs worse than the 110G though. From the numbers alone in clean config with the same fuel load (by weight) it should have similar power loading and wing loading as the P-38L. The P-38's Fowler flaps would make a difference of course, but so would the 410's slats. Who knows?
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Re: Me410
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2012, 10:53:22 AM »
  :rolleyes: waste of time another Luft HO mobile.    
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Looking at stats alone, I think the only thing that the 410 would beat are P40s, P39s. 190s would just out scissor the damn thing. But we'll see.  :D  
The p40 turns better than a 109G (instanteous, not sustained), handles a bit better too, fine little aircraft, just a bit short on climb rate and a flaps are a bit strange.
The p39 is waaay worse, still turns about 20-25% better than the 410, let alone the roll rate and stall characteristics.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2012, 11:03:35 AM »
Now can we go back to the more sensible choices like the YAK3 and METEOR!!     :lol

According to Eric Brown who flew both, the Meteor was a "pedestrian" aircraft compared to the 262. He didn't have anything good to say about it.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2012, 11:17:47 AM »
The 410 was everything I expected and more.

Me410 FTW!  :rock


The Meteor will be voted for next time.  :aok
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Re: Me410
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2012, 12:19:00 PM »
 I did try out the 410 and it was about what I expected. Between the 410 and 110 I like the 110 better over all. I did not vote for the 410 however I wanted the Yak3.  I don't think I have voted for a plane that won yet witch shows I have excellent judgement. HTC did a wonderful job on the plane itself. I like the cockpit and over all attention to detail WTG guys nice job.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2012, 12:30:15 PM »
Looks like the best deacker so far in the game.

B-25H is still king for that as you can take out the acks from further out with the 75mm cannon.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2012, 12:34:25 PM »
isn t it a german p38, i gues the p38 isn t much better, thats my first expirence maybe im wrong

cu christian

You're very wrong. 

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Re: Me410
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2012, 01:10:44 PM »
moin

im lookingforward to find a p38 for a dogfight in my 410 in fighter mode ;).

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Re: Me410
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2012, 01:17:13 PM »
Get a buddy and go to the DA. 25% fuel, BK5.

Joust match begins at visual range.  :D

Was landing close hits from 2-3K out. Little more practice and maybe a little bit of luck and I'll need to change my name to Sniper.  :devil

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2012, 01:57:21 PM »
The 110 has the 4 20mm and 2 30mm pak and you shoot buildings and hangars from short range. The 110 also can carry over twice the bombload.
2 of these 4 2cm guns are in a draggy underfuselage pod and you can't use bombs with the pod (except 4x 50kg underwing). Me 410 always has 2x 13mm and 2x 2cm + 2x 3cm guns or 2/4 2cm guns or 2x500kg or even a 1000kg bomb in the bombbay + an additional option to carry underwing bombs/rockts like the Bf 110.
The only draw back of the Me 410 is the lack of drop tanks although it carried twice the internal fuel of the Bf 110 (2400l vs 1270l).
Sidenote: Standard weapons of the Bf 110 G-2 are 2x2cm + 4x7.92mm - a MK 108 installation makes it a Bf 110 G-2/R3 of which only 80 were built. I really don't know if the MK 108 package was also available as conversion kit (not a simple Rüstsatz!). A lot of 1944 Bf 110G images show the upper machineguns replaced by additional two MG 151/20.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2012, 04:05:39 PM »
Denniss, the 410 has got droptanks in-game.

I've not had time to test the 410 until now, and I must say I'm very pleased with the result. It behaves very much the way I imagined, except for the aforementioned slight lack of speed and climb/acceleration. I really thought it would edge out the 110G and Mossie in climb. Haven't tested it in combat yet, but I'm sure it will find a niche in the MA. Very nice addition to the plane set!  :aok

One thing though is the lack of inner-wing bombs. I guess there just wasn't room in the standard hangar/weapon system layout?
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