I love the 410!!!!

[SmokinLoon]

The 410 is a monster and perhaps the best bomber destroyer at altitudes below 23k.  Get too much higher than 23k and the 410 becomes a fish out of water.  Sure, if it already at that altitude then it still may be able to intercept, but otherwise not.

I pity any bomber under 20k that runs in to a 410.   

[HighTone]

The N1Ks will hardly ever get off the ground.

[Karnak]

The Nakajima Homare engine used by the N1K and Ki-84 was horribly unreliable due to Japanese quality control issues late in the war.

[Crash Orange]

If it did that opens doors to model poor reliability of specific aspects of almost any plane in the game.

Which would be awesome. Some of the stars of AH were dogs IRL because of problems the game doesn't model - the C-Hog and KI-84 come to mind. Why model these planes to be so uber when they weren't?

[GScholz]

Yes, we really need more things to get in the way of fighting...

[Ruah]

I'd love to see 262 engine flame outs or spontaneous combustions and Me163 exploding on the runway. The N1Ks will hardly ever get off the ground.

oh this list could get really fun actually - Typhoon/Tempest random blackouts and death due to exhaust poisoning?  sounds fun.

[Crash Orange]

Yes, we really need more things to get in the way of fighting...

You can't fight in an F4U-1A instead of a 1C?

[GScholz]

Sure I can (and do), but what would be the point of having a -1C if the guns jam after the first burst?

Can you imagine the whines if a customer pays those hard earned perks for a 262 only to get a pair of engine fires when he fire-walls the throttles on take-off?

Can you imagine the whines if a customer selects "The Plane that Won the War" P-51D, and as soon as it dives over 500 mph a wing folds over the cockpit, trapping the player in a spiral of death?


The hard reality is that WWII fighters were very much experimental aircraft if judged by today's standards. The P-51, for instance, was developed in less than a year. They all had their vices and quirks, and were a lot harder to fly than in any computer game... Let alone to fight in.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but in the real P-51 there were hundreds of switches and levers that needed to be used to successfully operate the aircraft. In this game you hit "e", fire-wall the throttle and pull on the stick.


I'm, sorry if I overstate the obvious...

[Lusche]

For those that havent seen it yet: The 410 can now carry 2x 500kg SAP bombs in the internal bomb bay, increasing it's bomb damage capacity by x2.5 with direct hits compared to the old 2x250kg GP loadout. 

[bozon]

oh this list could get really fun actually - Typhoon/Tempest random blackouts and death due to exhaust poisoning?  sounds fun.

Also the P-39 suffered from gases in the cockpit and I am excluding the cases of pilots eating beans before missions. As far as I know Yaks did not carry oxygen and the pilots could lose consciousness above 15k.

Just to be clear, while I think these things would be hilarious for a tour or so, once the joke has passed they will just get in the way of fighting as some posters already pointed out.

[save]

Even more fun is : when you have to take what plane that is left to fly at the field (109e with no rudder) , transfer the whole map where the fight is, and find out they dont have the fuel you wanted at destination field + only 7.9mm bullets.

[Torquila]

Lots of love for the 410!

You either fly it 24k or 100 feet, in between is bad news!

[Karnak]

I took one up to ~28,000ft with the 50mm cannon.

Don't do this.  It doesn't like it up there.

Also, don't use this if you want to hunt anything other than unperked, heavy or older medium bombers.

[Torquila]

Karnak is right, I've tried it as well; the 410 can not persue the b29 at all!

[Crash Orange]

Sure I can (and do), but what would be the point of having a -1C if the guns jam after the first burst?

Better than having a fantasy -1C that never actually existed.

Can you imagine the whines if a customer pays those hard earned perks for a 262 only to get a pair of engine fires when he fire-walls the throttles on take-off?

I can imagine the joy of having a much more realistic number (i.e., a lot fewer) of 262 sorties.

Can you imagine the whines if a customer selects "The Plane that Won the War" P-51D, and as soon as it dives over 500 mph a wing folds over the cockpit, trapping the player in a spiral of death?

Learn to fly within the limitations of the plane. As it is now you can't dive a KI over 500mph without shedding much needed parts, and KI pilots somehow live with this limitation.

The hard reality is that WWII fighters were very much experimental aircraft if judged by today's standards.

True, but I'm not talking about modeling every nitpicky detail, just major performance issues that affected one or two planes particularly severely, ones that are game changers for that plane. Yes, there are compromises of realism for playability and that's fine, but the unrealistic modeling makes some planes and GVs much, much more effective than they were IRL. An F4U with working, reliable Hispanos did not exist in WW2, and yet we have one. Why? Either model the huge, glaring deficiency that made the -1C a dog of a plane IRL, or don't include it in the game. Likewise the Tiger II - if you want to play with the fantastic guns and armor you should have to accept the chance that more often than not it breaks down irreparably before you get anywhere near the enemy like the real ones did. Or better yet, just don't have it in the game.