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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2012, 12:19:25 AM »
I agree with Freeman.

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2012, 12:26:34 AM »
If the names of the murderers were not hyped and their tally.... I think it would curtail such heinous crimes.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2012, 03:38:55 AM »
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2012, 04:48:36 AM »
A few years ago when Chris Benoit killed his family and then himself.  Vincent McMahon came on the air Tuesday night during ECW and announced that Benoit would be forever blacklisted from WWE.  They will never mention his name again.

That should be done for all trajedies.

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2012, 04:50:49 AM »
A few years ago when Chris Benoit killed his family and then himself.  Vincent McMahon came on the air Tuesday night during ECW and announced that Benoit would be forever blacklisted from WWE.  They will never mention his name again.

That should be done for all trajedies.

So he made a big announcement of never mentioning his name again.. Sounds illogical to say the least.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2012, 05:53:32 AM »
Morgan Freeman denies making statement about school shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/morgan-freeman-denies-making-statement-school-shooting-013627371.html
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2012, 06:07:30 AM »

Maybe.........Just Maybe........A lack of God in our society could be the problem. Heinous acts of Evil occur because the perpetrator does not believe they have to answer for their actions, here on Earth or the Hereafter. I'm not a Bible thumper guys, but do believe you might have to answer for your evil deeds come judgement day.


Then again, religious belief has fueled many of our most notorious, widespread and heinous acts of violence.  It's easier to justify violence as "ok" when God is supposedly on the side of the perpetrator. 

Not just individuals either...  Groups of people killing groups of people.  Crack open a history book; start with "Manifest Destiny".
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2012, 07:13:53 AM »
Then again, religious belief has fueled many of our most notorious, widespread and heinous acts of violence.  It's easier to justify violence as "ok" when God is supposedly on the side of the perpetrator. 

Not just individuals either...  Groups of people killing groups of people.  Crack open a history book; start with "Manifest Destiny".
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2012, 07:24:53 AM »
I see many good points posted here, but let's not get into religion. Religion is not responsible for your actions, nor do you need religion to be a decent person.

I do believe that the celebrity status of mass murderers and serial killers is a big causal factor for the individuals that commit these crimes. However, we must set a side those killings that have been motivated by revenge; when going trough the list of school shootings in the U.S. I found that the majority was revenge motivated, perpetrated by a single student who committed suicide or murder-suicide at his school, usually with very few casualties, often only the perpetrator himself. These kinds of suicide/murder-suicides happen everywhere, and the only reason they are "shootings" in the U.S. is the availability of firearms; especially handguns. In Europe and elsewhere other weapons are used instead, often with much the same result.

The crimes I believe the media and our own celebrity worshiping culture is driving is the lone outsider, often middle-age male who sees himself as a failure, who, as someone put it: wants to "go out with a bang"; to put his mark on the world in the only way he seems able.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2012, 08:50:08 AM »
So far, three have been suspended.  Religion discussion, is a no-no.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2012, 09:28:19 AM »
Morgan Freeman denies making statement about school shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/morgan-freeman-denies-making-statement-school-shooting-013627371.html


I wonder if the real author will step forward. In the end it doesn't really matter; he/she used Freeman's celebrity status to spread the message, a good message.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2012, 09:37:23 AM »
Since the early birth of this country guns have been in all or most of americas' homes.  Early to supply food for the family and self defense.  Blaming a gun for this tragedy is just about as intelligent as blaming the SUV a girl used to back over her Fiance TWICE in our locality.  Place the blame squarely where it needs to be.  We have Dr. Phil and who knows what not on TV everyday trying to school the country or individuals  where their shortcomings are.  We as a whole are making this more difficult and complicated then it needs to be..  Dr Phil is on TV to make money.  The TV station and his sponsors do so to make money.  Maybe he sincerely wishes to help...but hey...he does it for money.
And as Mr Freeman said in a round about way...our society now appears to glorify violence.  Take a look at the movies produced and the TV shows we now have.  He's right.  Law and Order, Law and Order SUV and on and on and on.
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To me it is simple.  Teach core values.  There were great core values chiseled on tablets many years ago.  Now...it's almost unpopular to say one believes in those ten core values for fear of being ridiculed.  Some aspects of those core values can't be displayed in some instances.  Not in Govt. Buildings, Schools, or publicly in front of places where people go to discuss these core values during certain parts of the year.

Yes....those of my age were lucky to have a parent home at all times to reinforce these core values.  Is society lazy now?  

I wonder how many would go to the movies to see The Maltese Falcon now?  I'm thinking it would be declared boring, very few would see it.  Definately a change in our society eh?  Core values didn't change or did I miss the memo?

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2012, 10:20:29 AM »
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map?page=2

Take a look at this article from Mother Jones.  There seems to be some common themes from the reported motives.  I noticed a few trends.  What do you guys see?

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335739/facts-about-mass-shootings-john-fund#

This article suggests our recent wave of killings may not be as statistically high as we thought.  Does the media hype these things up too much? 

Whatever we can glean from all this, this isn't a problem we can legislate our way out of. 
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2012, 10:59:36 AM »
Oops, article was already posted.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2012, 12:14:56 PM »
Morgan Freeman never made those statements.   :rofl
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