Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?

[titanic3]

lighten up Francis.

Damn, Francis is EVERYWHERE! Get yourself together Francis! 

[Shane]

The g-14

with gondies. 

[Shane]

the F is best... well it was...  

that too.   

[Scotch]

The Krutch4 stops, with their practiced move, and resumes full speed better.    I wonder if it could really do that ...

I wish Nath would elaborate a little more...  

I fly my G2 w/gondies.. so I start out with the more difficult plane and the disadvantage in most cases.

I can get most <without the special move> fairly easy I can even surprise some of the <special move > folks on occasion.


G2 all the way but the F is best... well it was...  


Perk the K4  

 

I'm curious what you're calling the 'special move'?

[titanic3]

I'm curious what you're calling the 'special move'?

Probably doing 360 snap rolls or near instantaneous back flips without losing control. I saved a film of myself doing (what I think) is a back flip in a K4. Will post it tomorrow. I honestly think that this was no way possible in RL, but I also think that this is a war game with planes, not a hardcore flight sim, so I don't mind it much.  Besides, not a whole lot of people know how to do these tricks anyways.

[SunBat]

It's not the K4, it's called a K$ - pronounced kay-money.

That should answer your question.

[Latrobe]

I prefer the G2, it's lighter and you feel it when flying it when compared to the K4. Without WEP, the G2 is the 2nd fastest 109 though the G14 beats it with WEP on. Like already stated though, the K4 can give any fighter a tough time if you learn how to fly it well enough. The trouble is the 30mm. It's taken me 4 years to get a slight understanding of how to shoot it!  I like the 13mm's at 200 and the 30mm at 150, I get the best results with this set up.

If you really want to make every Spit, Brew, and Zeke feel silly though, fly the F4! 

[Tank-Ace]

Depends. I've flown Luftwaffe aircraft for 4+ years, and I'm not going to say one is inherently better than the other.

 For knife fighting, the G2 is probably the best in the set. There isn't anything it can't do at least acceptably, and it can really mix it up if you have to.


Personally, I prefer the K4, but its not necessarily "better". It takes a higher skill level pilot to fly it to its potential, is harder to aim with, and is vulnerable to more maneuverable aircraft. But if you master it, you'll be able to out fight most others in the game, perhaps even those G2 sticks....

[GScholz]

F is best... well it was...  

What do you mean "it was" ?  Has something happened to it?

[Changeup]

For myself personally, I fly it what I call 'execution style'.  I get in as close as I can, put the barrel against the back of his head, and pull the trigger.  Ideally, I'm 100 yards or closer when I pull the trigger and the guy is in planform filling my windscreen.

Wiley.

The problem with this type of aerial gunnery is the guy in front of you wont necessarily keep still while you saddle him up.  

Go offline and perform 45 and 90 degree AoA passes at the drones.  Don't quit!  You wont hit shiz when you start and it might take an hour (like it took me because I'm just learning it now too) to get some hits in but you'll feel better about the ballistics when you're done.

As Grizz used to say, "The K4 can outfly anything in capable hands but what makes it a platform of destruction is being able to kill quickly in it....very quickly"

[Shane]

What do you mean "it was" ?  Has something happened to it?

they clipped it's gondies.    

[wil3ur]

Since I'm on, and love the 109, I'll throw in my 2-Cents:

G-2 is awesome, G-6 is basically the same plane with a bit more punch... you'll get your nose up quicker in the G2.  For my money though I'll go for the K4 for straight fighter CAP, I'll use the G-14 if there may be a bit of jabboing to do, however rather than the G-2, the 109F is the unsung hero of the 109 model.  Once to speed it'll handle much like the K4 for diving and a quick zoom, and it has the 20mm package of the G-2.  Only downside is it is a straight fighter model, so unless you've already got CAP or are running with numbers, it's a diffiuclt plane to fly home in.

K4/F4 FTW!!!

[Ruah]

nothing wrong with the G2, but the K4 will win every time with equal pilots. . . sorry, that K4 engine is really a thing all its own.  The G2 is good even if I prefer the F4 if we are talking earlier 109s, but really. . .

to the OP: look at the year the planes were put into production - generally speaking later > earlier.

[Wiley]

The problem with this type of aerial gunnery is the guy in front of you wont necessarily keep still while you saddle him up.  

Go offline and perform 45 and 90 degree AoA passes at the drones.  Don't quit!  You wont hit shiz when you start and it might take an hour (like it took me because I'm just learning it now too) to get some hits in but you'll feel better about the ballistics when you're done.

As Grizz used to say, "The K4 can outfly anything in capable hands but what makes it a platform of destruction is being able to kill quickly in it....very quickly"

Sorry, I guess I didn't describe it well.  The 45 and 90 degree passes is what I meant by the 'crossing shots'.  The tater chucker works so much better like that, which is the exact opposite of most other guns.

I find it funny that the safest thing to do against my K4 is point straight away from me and not change course, unless your aircraft is a mossie or bigger.

Wiley.

[icepac]

I like the G2 in this comparison but prefer the F4.