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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2013, 11:56:11 AM »
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2013, 02:59:14 PM »
umm.. i think I had more kills in the 190a5 in 2012 than anyone in the game.. prolly pretty close now too I would guess. I dunno if that equals your definition of consistent or not..


edit:  actually maybe it was 2011... I may not have flown that much in 2012.. im getting old..  :cry

I was thinking more of current times, b/c my memory isn't that good either.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2013, 03:02:14 PM »
There was that one tour where Moot and Grizz had 50% of all 152 kills. And I had 15% of all k4 kills. :lol

Wasn't that in '09 or '10?  Man, times change...  Just a few weeks ago I was picking you in a spixteen with my 190. 


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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2013, 03:09:23 PM »
if u fly 109 or 190 u got much bigger peepee than ppl who fly spitfire or american plane :old:

Debrody peepee so big it cut off blood supply to his brain and damage it badly :( this why he is so angry and quit game forever every 2 weeks and have many mood swing etc

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #139 on: February 19, 2013, 04:36:20 PM »
Wasn't that in '09 or '10?  Man, times change...  Just a few weeks ago I was picking you in a spixteen with my 190.  

What changed? I flew other planes then. Upped vultched fields, and got gangpicked just as much. Having that many kills doesn't mean I have to fly like a little girl or have a good k/d on paper.
Work prevents me from maintaining a certain personal par. It takes months to get back to where  I was, but I can still swat you like a gnat when I need to.  :t

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #140 on: February 19, 2013, 04:42:18 PM »
This gets argued to death many times imho.  The plane doesn't make the pilot, althought plane selection often reflects what the pilot is made (capable) of.  

IE: In regards to spits, most I never find flying in to a field solo to stake a CAP and engage any enemy who wanders up or in to them.  I typicaly, more often than not, will find a half-dozen in a 12-18 enemy furball, HOing at every opportunity, and ganging up in numbers against single cons.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2013, 04:46:48 PM »
It's interesting going into Furball lake. The spit14 is the most prevalent spit in there because they equate its perk price in the MA to mean it's the best. In fact it's almost exclusively a perk plane area.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2013, 06:09:13 PM »
here use this   :rolleyes:

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 :rofl   Priceless!!!!


NO I MEAN really priceless. You're gonna get rich off that stuff around here.  
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #143 on: February 20, 2013, 10:01:34 AM »
Spits are for kids, Brits, and newbs. German iron and P38s are what men fly. Little girls fly ponies. P39s are for self masochists.

Typhoons are a mans plane on don't smell of big fat sausage and leather shorts :old:

They are a very good plane if you are old and have the reflexes of a snail :old:

I am awesome in the Typhoon :rofl
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #144 on: February 20, 2013, 12:03:37 PM »
Typhoon is a woman's plane, ask Betty.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #145 on: February 20, 2013, 12:20:10 PM »
I am a women on the 1st Tuesday of the Month :rofl

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #146 on: February 20, 2013, 01:26:25 PM »
In the scenario "Enemy Coast Ahead" (1943 English Channel warfare), the fighter-plane set was Spit V's, Spit 9's, and Typhoons vs. FW 190A-5's and Bf 109G-6 and G-2.

I flew 190A-5's in that one, and in that mix of planes and in that many-on-many environment, the FW 190A-5 was a marvelous plane.  In our 190's, the plane we were concerned about the most were not the Spitfires but the Typhoon.  We could generally engage and disengage from the Spits as we chose, but that was not the case with the Typhoon.

In that environment, a more-realistic setup, things that made the 190 a great plane in real life made it great there:  roll rate and crisp handling to switch targets quickly or evade quickly; excellent speed among that plane set to allow engaging or disengaging on your terms; excellent firepower, so that even a snapshot could take out an enemy; and sturdiness so that you could take some hits and generally still survive.  The Typhoon had many of those characteristics, just not the roll and crisp handling, but it balanced that by more speed and a slightly better set of guns.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #147 on: February 20, 2013, 01:30:23 PM »
By the way, the above is not to say that the Spitfire was poor -- it is still a great plane, and there were folks like Bruv who racked up the kills in Spits (although I think that Bruv would rack up the kills in just about anything).  It's just that we felt that the 190 was superior in that environment, and we 190 pilots worried more about Typhoons than Spitfires.

That was a surprise to me.  Going into that scenario, I expected the Spitfires to be the best plane in the mix.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #148 on: February 20, 2013, 01:39:47 PM »
By the way, the above is not to say that the Spitfire was poor -- it is still a great plane, and there were folks like Bruv who racked up the kills in Spits (although I think that Bruv would rack up the kills in just about anything).  It's just that we felt that the 190 was superior in that environment, and we 190 pilots worried more about Typhoons than Spitfires.

That was a surprise to me.  Going into that scenario, I expected the Spitfires to be the best plane in the mix.

That's what I love about the scenarios.  In the MA, certain planes do better due to the way gameplay flows in the MAs.  In scenarios, with squads working together against one another, I find the gameplay you get is quite different, and different aircraft and tactics do better in that situation than in MA gameplay.  Speed often becomes far more important than dogfighting ability.

Your example here is a perfect one.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #149 on: February 20, 2013, 01:45:11 PM »
Brooke's comments are fantastic :old:

He is the most knowledgable person in this thread :old:

 
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