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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2013, 11:56:59 PM »
Shows as a private video and won't allow me to watch it.
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2013, 12:12:17 AM »
Shows as a private video and won't allow me to watch it.

Ya rockmor there might be some things wrong with the video,not really sure how wrong or whats up.
Got kind of mixed reviews of late,I'll re open it if i find it is okay. Sorry i would not have posted this if i thought it was not worth posting.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2013, 12:14:04 AM »
Hey Sunka,
To clear up something regarding your opening post, as you're yourself are already aware of...
I'm the one who pm'ed Sunka, letting him I would help review and get back to him...  I did get a chance to reply, although to late, since RL and wedding planning for my Lady's daughter has been taking my time lately... My apologies for that Sunka, Sir!

As for anything else,  I will try and help you Sunka via pm as we have been doing....

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O NP TC real life is real life this is a game.I just wanted to get it out there after working on it,my mistake.    :salute
« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 12:30:39 AM by Sunka »
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2013, 01:29:17 AM »
Private video..  :noid
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2013, 01:34:42 AM »
 
Private video..  :noid
:lol it was showing just a little to much.    :noid

But no, really i have got some comments that there might be some small mistakes or things that could be said better,so when i find out what that is I'll try and fix then open it back up.


You fine players of the AH comunity deserve nothing but the best.

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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2013, 06:38:08 PM »
 :lol it was showing just a little to much.    :noid

But no, really i have got some comments that there might be some small mistakes or things that could be said better,so when i find out what that is I'll try and fix then open it back up.


You fine players of the AH comunity deserve nothing but the best.

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can I  watch it ?

didn't get a chance to yet  :(

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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2013, 08:32:37 PM »
can I  watch it ?

didn't get a chance to yet  :(
Sure..i unlocked it,still awaiting more info from some trainers.
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2013, 08:55:44 PM »
well honestly I do see some stuff.....first I am not great at the terminology....but at one point you say the nme can only do 3 things....."up...down....or sideways".....this is not true......he can do all that and more....a combination of those.....so to speak....




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and if you always do a "vertical move" you are predictable and anyone worth his sand will make short work of ya :old:


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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2013, 09:04:52 PM »
well honestly I do see some stuff.....first I am not great at the terminology....but at one point you say the nme can only do 3 things....."up...down....or sideways".....this is not true......he can do all that and more....a combination of those.....so to speak....




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and if you always do a "vertical move" you are predictable and anyone worth his sand will make short work of ya :old:


Both them statements where not from "me" but form the aces.org site,and you can only go in one direction at a time,you cant go up down at the same time.  :D
And as far as the vert merge,that's why i covered a horizontal merge with the spit.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2013, 09:57:13 PM »
I wish I could put into words better....

someone with better ability in terminology has to chime in...

I also disagree with trying to get your nose below the con on merge....

I think my biggest thing about the video is the absolutes I hear in the description.....do this and this will happen.....


 one of the things that I love about dogfighting, is the fact that every fight is different, no 2 fights are the same....

for that reason alone it is wrong to always do a "certain" maneuver .




 

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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2013, 10:04:43 PM »
I wish I could put into words better....

someone with better ability in terminology has to chime in...

I also disagree with trying to get your nose below the con on merge....

I think my biggest thing about the video is the absolutes I hear in the description.....do this and this will happen.....


 one of the things that I love about dogfighting, is the fact that every fight is different, no 2 fights are the same....

for that reason alone it is wrong to always do a "certain" maneuver .




 
Well that's why i showed real fights.
When mtnman showed me the merge (years ago) he showed me a basic way to start..that's all I'm doing ink.I could show all the ways you say to fight if i want to make a 2 hour movie,don't know what more i can do with 10 minuets,i cant cover all possible situations.
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2013, 10:15:14 PM »
Well that's why i showed real fights.
When mtnman showed me the merge (years ago) he showed me a basic way to start..that's all I'm doing ink.I could show all the ways you say to fight if i want to make a 2 hour movie,don't know what more i can do with 10 minuets,i cant cover all possible situations.

I know...and I am not trying to dis what you did.....I am just an Honest guy and no matter what will give an honest opinion....you seem to what to put out the best vid you can.......:salute

I think maybe wording it so it doesn't sound so absolute or even describing certain aspects....if someone is going vert he is not necessarily going straight up.....and same with down....

I could be wrong but "obleak"(sp?) turn comes to mind....

also in the merge when a con who dove is significantly faster then the con that didn't, he will most likely come back up and pass within guns of his opponent...inturn allowing the opponent to follow him up....depending on how much faster or E he was carrying will depend on if the nme gets roped but a good stick will just roll away from the rope.




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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2013, 10:18:00 PM »
I know...and I am not trying to dis what you did.....I am just an Honest guy and no matter what will give an honest opinion....you seem to what to put out the best vid you can.......:salute

I think maybe wording it so it doesn't sound so absolute or even describing certain aspects....if someone is going vert he is not necessarily going straight up.....and same with down....

I could be wrong but "obleak"(sp?) turn comes to mind....

also in the merge when a con who dove is significantly faster then the con that didn't, he will most likely come back up and pass within guns of his opponent...inturn allowing the opponent to follow him up....depending on how much faster or E he was carrying will depend on if the nme gets roped but a good stick will just roll away from the rope.




No 8 min video will ever take the place of a trainer or practice.
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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2013, 10:24:48 PM »
No 8 min video will ever take the place of a trainer or practice.

very true :salute

what about doing the vid on just one aspect and adding vids so at the end it would be a collection of vids

first vid on the "lead turn" using it.... and understanding when an opponent is using it against you, and what to do to counter it....

like you say a short vid can only get so much info but spending more time on one aspect and doing a series of vids will be better for consumption.




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Re: Training Video,The Merge
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2013, 10:30:26 PM »
very true :salute

what about doing the vid on just one aspect and adding vids so at the end it would be a collection of vids

first vid on the "lead turn" using it.... and understanding when an opponent is using it against you, and what to do to counter it....

like you say a short vid can only get so much info but spending more time on one aspect and doing a series of vids will be better for consumption.




That sounds good the "merge" collection of Vids.
This WAS my first one and there are no AH training videos like I'm making to look at,so its like starting from scratch.
TC is going to be going over a lot of stuff with me (i hope) soon,after that point i will keep going.
I do like your suggestion of cutting the merge into many Vids.
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