Lanc .303's overmodelled?

[Zoney]

Was in a furball one time and it was announced that the B-17s coming in had 999000 at the stick. Every friendly scattered away from the 17s with a select, very stupid few going after them. I laughed so hard that day.

I've just decided to not go after bombers unless I have a very clear advantage (over HQ in a 163). I get killt by them every time I try. The only bomber formation that I've been able to kill recently was a group of 17s on the deck going after our CV.

Then I guess I'm stupid because if I hear that 999000 is around that is the guy I am going to attack.
I want the challenge.  Now granted my heart rate will be a bit higher maybe knowing it's him but I'm going to make patient intelligent passes on him until he is dead.  Not long ago I attacked a set of 17's and killed one on the first pass, 999000 dead.  As I was coming around to reposition for the next pass I saw a group of 4 fighters approaching him from his 6.  I told them on the radio channel that it was 999000.  I warned them that they were in a bad position and that attacks from his 6 would have poor results.  One of the fighters came back, "Yeah, but there's 4 of us!".  So, I watched from a safe position as they were all shot down.  999000 and I were Pm'ing each other and laughing as it was happening.  I then continued my attack taking out another, leaving one to fly away as I wanted him to land his mission.  Unfortunately he had been damaged by me and died before he could land giving me the 3rd kill.

Here's the deal.  Killing bombers is a skill set that you have to obtain from practice and that means you are going to die, a lot, until you figure it out.  Each failure you learn more from than each success.

[Rob52240]

for omni directional aerial gunnery we must factor in the vectors and speed of both aircraft.

When you attack tail on you give the tail gunner in the lanc a huge advantage over your forward firing identical guns.

In high school us kids liked to fire bottle rockets at each others cars on the highway.  Gotta be in front to get a hit.

[hitech]

for omni directional aerial gunnery we must factor in the vectors and speed of both aircraft.

When you attack tail on you give the tail gunner in the lanc a huge advantage over your forward firing identical guns.

In high school us kids liked to fire bottle rockets at each others cars on the highway.  Gotta be in front to get a hit.

I wonder if this an Iowa thing, because I did the same in in High School in  pickup trucks.

HiTech

[Vinkman]

I wonder if this an Iowa thing, because I did the same in in High School in  pickup trucks.

HiTech

A buddy of mine was from Iowa. He said for kicks they used to see how far down a road they could drive, at night, with the lights off. Apparently it so dark at night out there is corn country, that you couldn't see a thing. Any of you other Iowans do the same? 

Another buddy from Minnesota told me they had Shot guns fights across the quarries. The pellets were slow enough that they didn't hurt "much" at those distances.

I grew up in NY where the only dangerous thing we did in high school was, apparently, drink a Coke that was larger than 16oz. I feel inadequate. 

[Rob52240]

I wonder if this an Iowa thing, because I did the same in in High School in  pickup trucks.

HiTech

Iowa has 2 things going for it if you want to go fast and or raise heck.

The entire state is covered by a 1 mile grid of straight gravel roads (goes back to the homesteading) that are not patrolled and have a 55mph speed limit.  On average you have 3 or 4 miles between driveways on these roads. 

At night you can actually see quite well, especially in the winter when there's snow cover.  When we'd go skiing in the ditches of these roads at night we had to do it lights off after the eyes got adjusted.  We'd turn on the parking lights when needed for safety.  Headlights at the front of the pickup are too far ahead of the skier and culverts are a squeak when you stop seeing them shortly before going over them.

One of my most exciting college memories was in the back seat of a nissan Z that had just gone through wrong side of a T intersection at a high rate of speed.  Once we realized nobody was hurt we took off running towards the nearest familiar house so nobody would get in trouble.

[tunnelrat]

In the right hands, the quad .303s are certainly keeping the 6 o'clock of the Lancs safe.  They do seem to hit hard at long range.

[hitech]

Iowa has 2 things going for it if you want to go fast and or raise heck.

The entire state is covered by a 1 mile grid of straight gravel roads (goes back to the homesteading) that are not patrolled and have a 55mph speed limit.  On average you have 3 or 4 miles between driveways on these roads. 

At night you can actually see quite well, especially in the winter when there's snow cover.  When we'd go skiing in the ditches of these roads at night we had to do it lights off after the eyes got adjusted.  We'd turn on the parking lights when needed for safety.  Headlights at the front of the pickup are too far ahead of the skier and culverts are a squeak when you stop seeing them shortly before going over them.

One of my most exciting college memories was in the back seat of a nissan Z that had just gone through wrong side of a T intersection at a high rate of speed.  Once we realized nobody was hurt we took off running towards the nearest familiar house so nobody would get in trouble.

Have done the ski thing, and lights out driving on the roads. Also snow mobiles on the roads with a skier behind worked well. On the great snow days had to get out the chains to do the ski thing.

HiTech

[SmokinLoon]

I wonder if this an Iowa thing, because I did the same in in High School in  pickup trucks.

HiTech

Yes it is.  We did it in Storm Lake, too.      

[Rob52240]

A buddy of mine was from Iowa. He said for kicks they used to see how far down a road they could drive, at night, with the lights off. Apparently it so dark at night out there is corn country, that you couldn't see a thing. Any of you other Iowans do the same? 

July-October corn can block your view of intersecting traffic but the soybean fields and pastures don't. 

In high school I knew a kid with a early 70's F250 who was racing another kid I knew who was in a 80's caprice.   The pickup T boned the car at highway speed and there was a fire.  I've known a handfull of people who have driven into quarries while drunk or chasing deer or chasing deer drunk, I'm even related to one.

This is street view of it.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=50501&hl=en&ll=43.038564,-94.718671&spn=0.024874,0.038581&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Fort+Dodge,+Iowa+50501&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=43.038559,-94.717994&panoid=RQpOkpUOxsc__XqD9FIjsg&cbp=12,217.76,,0,25.33

[deadstikmac]

bottle rockets and roman candle fights +1

just do not wear a big jacket... the roman candles have been know to catch a jacket on fire...... personal exp.  

[Rob52240]

My favorite was to take a bottle rocket with no stick, light it and set it in someone's hood on their jacket or sweatshirt.

[tunnelrat]

My favorite was to take a bottle rocket with no stick, light it and set it in someone's hood on their jacket or sweatshirt.

I preferred taking a pack of a dozen, grabbing it tight by the cellophane, ripping all the sticks out and twisting the fuses together.... just light and toss.... good times.

[Wiley]

LOL!  Bored rural kids...

Grew up in the 80s...  Buddy of mine was getting pulled behind a truck on a Saturday night on rollerblades doing about 50mph.  They stopped the truck, buddy starts jumping around and cussing up a storm, clawing at the blades to get them off.  Apparently the RPM rollerblade wheels reach at 50mph generates enough heat to melt the wheels and make them pretty uncomfortable on the bottoms of your feet.

How some of us survived remains a mystery to me...

Wiley.

[1Cane]

I love the Lancs ,53 kills 3 deaths. Set up for a belly attack and let the 20mm do its magic!

[FLOOB]

over powering just a 2 second burst from them at a fighters wingroot will shred the wing right off

Two seconds is a long time, that's about one hundred rounds. If you're flying a formation then it's three hundred rounds.