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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2013, 04:54:19 AM »
But what's with the typhoons losing wings now? Tried to pull lead in a dive and snap wing gone before blackout even started...
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 08:51:06 AM »
This is why the Ki-84 is 20 ENY.
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 08:57:13 AM »
Actually the Ki-84 was not so strong body because Nakajima designed it a lighter.
Also it had "nose up" effect to avoid disintegrating in midair when it tries a high-speed dive.

According to army Ki-84 manual, a dive speed limit of Ki-84 was 750km/h (446mph).
But, IJAAF pilot reported it can dive at 850km/h (520mph) without breaking up.
It seems the manual's dive speed limit has a margin, so it may be tweaked higher in the game.

I remembered that Mr. Busa said he might send a information about it to HTC.
Currently I have no contact to him though. :frown:

I think the 84 we have in game is overmodelled as it is, much like the Dr1 was f4u4s have trouble doing what it does in the vert

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 09:13:25 AM »
in all the time I have in the KI I have had pieces come off 3 times....all in the very early days.

if you are doing that kind of speeds in the Ki.......you are doing it wrong.

Been flying the Ki for about a month now nearly exclusively and had similar experience to Ink i.e. shed parts a few times because I was going way to fast....figured out it wasn't the plane's problem but mine....stopped trying to fly it like a 109, reduced speed and (surprise surprise surprise) started killing things!   :D

BTW Ink....anytime you are free to impart some of your secrets in the Ki I'd be happy to be your devoted Padawan,O Master Jedi.  And by padawan I mean a respectful-non-whining-like-the-brat-who-played-Anakin padawan!   :D

OK, I'll get off Ink's ankle now....  :lol
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 01:35:54 PM »
This is why the Ki-84 is 20 ENY.


'84 is suppose to be the premier aircraft representing IJAAF side... not a mere perk farming tool.

fix the tail and '84 should move up to the rank of 5-ENY's.

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 01:50:54 PM »
nvm
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 02:23:49 PM »
'84 is suppose to be the premier aircraft representing IJAAF side...

I kinda thought that was the N1K2's role...
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM »
I kinda thought that was the N1K2's role...

N1K (low alt) or J2M (mid-hi) for the Navy

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 03:22:09 PM »
Been flying the Ki for about a month now nearly exclusively and had similar experience to Ink i.e. shed parts a few times because I was going way to fast....figured out it wasn't the plane's problem but mine....stopped trying to fly it like a 109, reduced speed and (surprise surprise surprise) started killing things!   :D

BTW Ink....anytime you are free to impart some of your secrets in the Ki I'd be happy to be your devoted Padawan,O Master Jedi.  And by padawan I mean a respectful-non-whining-like-the-brat-who-played-Anakin padawan!   :D

OK, I'll get off Ink's ankle now....  :lol

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that was great :aok

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I let the wife read that, she laughed as hard as I did...... :rofl


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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 03:46:43 PM »
I aim to please!

BTW - I'll be respectful if you do not require that I grow one of those little padawan ponytails....if I have to have one of those all bets are off.   :bolt:
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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2013, 04:38:34 PM »
I aim to please!

BTW - I'll be respectful if you do not require that I grow one of those little padawan ponytails....if I have to have one of those all bets are off.   :bolt:

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 09:33:03 AM »
it does not shed parts at 450.....I have thousands of hours in it, pieces come off at a little over 500 right around 505.

Actually there isn't any single speed at which control surfaces come off. A very simple test shows that the speed at which things start to break varies randomly.



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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2013, 10:11:37 AM »
I kinda thought that was the N1K2's role...
The N1KJ-2 was a Navy bird. The Kis are Army.

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2013, 10:44:48 AM »
Manual trim has been my friend with the 84 at high speeds.

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Re: Ki-84's and extreme diving...
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2013, 10:49:21 AM »
The N1KJ-2 was a Navy bird. The Kis are Army.

Hmmmm....I don't remember a tail hook on the N1K2 (tho' I fly it so seldom it could be there for all I know)  ....guess they didnt really have any CVs by the time it was introduced so why bother!
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