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Offline Zacherof

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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2013, 07:45:42 PM »
That's fair, Luft fans get what they want, Spitfans get what they want.

Gimmie my damn Re.2005 and Ge.55 then! :D
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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2013, 08:26:41 PM »
I really would like to see the proper 190F/8 or 9 as well as the G being added.

You've mentioned this in the past. What exactly is wrong with our F-8? Right now, as far as I can tell, its just representing a 190F-8/Ux.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2013, 08:49:47 PM »
You've mentioned this in the past. What exactly is wrong with our F-8? Right now, as far as I can tell, its just representing a 190F-8/Ux.

There are quite a few weapon packages not available, the 4x 50kg bombs is one i've been advocating for a very long time. 
It gives a total of 8x 50kg bomb, we have the Pb12 rockets, Pzschreck rockets were an option for midwar, the PB was later on. 
Also the F-8 did carry Wfr. Gr 28/32 rockets, as some were tasked with bomber interception.

If we had the F8/U1, then 250kg bombs could be added on the wings, as well as 300L drop tanks (wings) and S250 bombs.
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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2013, 08:49:56 PM »
A perk may be warranted for on the 213E powered Doras based on speed alone. It is a valid measure to prevent the MA being completely dominated by late war planes. It is bad enough as it is.

I have always been curious why so many people share this view. What should the Late War Main Arena be dominated by, or even what ratio is the correct ratio for the Late War arena and why? Should it be more early or mid war planes and who should be flying the non late war models, the old salts or only the newbs? Just curious is all bro, not directed specifically at your post, but rather to those in general who bring up this topic of wanting to see less late war planes in the late war arena.  :cheers:

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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2013, 08:54:46 PM »
I have always been curious why so many people share this view. What should the Late War Main Arena be dominated by, or even what ratio is the correct ratio for the Late War arena and why? Should it be more early or mid war planes and who should be flying the non late war models, the old salts or only the newbs? Just curious is all bro, not directed specifically at your post, but rather to those in general who bring up this topic of wanting to see less late war planes in the late war arena.  :cheers:

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LWA is dominated by the LWA aircraft, Lusche's charts show you that. I think the P-51D has more sorties then probably the Bottom 20 aircraft in aces high, combined if its not even more then that.
There is a decent number of MW planes, but I haven't seen his charts for 2012 or 2013, it would be interesting to see how much LW aircraft dominate the LWA compared to others.
But the deal breaker is aircraft like the B-239 which gets some use, which is interesting among a few other aircraft.

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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2013, 09:40:37 PM »
I have always been curious why so many people share this view. What should the Late War Main Arena be dominated by, or even what ratio is the correct ratio for the Late War arena and why? Should it be more early or mid war planes and who should be flying the non late war models, the old salts or only the newbs? Just curious is all bro, not directed specifically at your post, but rather to those in general who bring up this topic of wanting to see less late war planes in the late war arena.  :cheers:

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It will be dominated by late war stuff.  Late war extremely fast stuff is another thing though.
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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2013, 02:28:12 PM »
Where does this sort of thing end?  Seventeen D-13s and two saw limited action?  How many other fighters and bombers would this push onto the table?

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The Ta152H-1 left the door open for everything.

Btw,  you say it was easy to add because of the D9... you cite the cockpit and tail as being the same...  I've been looking that over.
The cockpit and tail a plane don't make and the rest of the differences are many... 7' longer wing span and different shapes, 2.5' longer body, the vertical tail is larger area, the cockpit <inside> are not identical, forward fuselage hump is gone and is longer and narrower ...... The cockpit <complete> is moved back 2 feet. The horizontal tail is the same shape and size ...but made of metal instead of wood.

That dose not leave much unchanged. Shall I get out the drawings to illustrate for you?

All your blither about it being "so easy to add" is a Bunch of Dr. BS Karnak in radioactive dream state. I'm sure it is more like Saxman says and is a whole new and different plane on the 3d mesh.

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« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 04:44:29 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2013, 03:12:56 PM »
Butcher...Good reading $35  at amazon
The History of German Aviation: Kurt Tank: Focke-Wulf's Designer and Test Pilot
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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2013, 12:41:39 PM »
Here is a wrecked D-11 in what looks like a '45 post-war picture. What would we not give for one of these today? They are still considered high performance aircraft, imagine FW190D models at the Reno air races!


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Re: Making a case for later D models
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2013, 07:16:38 PM »
Another flat-nosed Dora from IV./JG3 'Blue 1' which was the staffelkapitän's ride. The a/c in the upper left of the picture was allegedly identified as a flat-nosed Dora as well.




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