Duelers need your opinions here on this matter.

[Changeup]

The point I was making was to get them to put their precious MA ranking at risk as well as their ego. 

Ahhh....my bad.  Misunderstood

[Wiley]

The only one I've done is climbing above agreed on alt on the way to the fight.  You're on autoclimb, you get chatting, suddenly you're 1k above merge alt.  Vox just generally gets an 'Oh crap, I'm above 5k!' or whatever and I immediately descend and throttle back so I'm not above the vehicle's speed.  Doing that stuff intentionally to gain advantage is just cheesy IMO.

What I don't think is cheesy is maneuvering before the merge.  IMO the fight is on as soon as you're within icon other than guns cold on the first merge.  I've seen guys that felt the first pass should be level flight, no maneuvering until you pass the 3-9 line.

Wiley.

[JunkyII]

The only one I've done is climbing above agreed on alt on the way to the fight.  You're on autoclimb, you get chatting, suddenly you're 1k above merge alt.  Vox just generally gets an 'Oh crap, I'm above 5k!' or whatever and I immediately descend and throttle back so I'm not above the vehicle's speed.  Doing that stuff intentionally to gain advantage is just cheesy IMO.

What I don't think is cheesy is maneuvering before the merge.  IMO the fight is on as soon as you're within icon other than guns cold on the first merge.  I've seen guys that felt the first pass should be level flight, no maneuvering until you pass the 3-9 line.

Wiley.

Icon range planes released to do whatever be it dive in turn off for angle or what not....

The accidentally going over merge alt isn't a big deal.

[JOACH1M]

So recently I have heard of people going to the DA and certain things being used for giving them a slight advantage in a co alt like plane fight. Like the ones in the DA between 23 and 24. The two things people have supposedly been doing is...

1. Climbing above the determined alt outside of visual range to build up more speed so you have that E advantage in the merge. LAME!

2. Dumping Ammo at takeoff down to enough rounds for that single kill....of course making your plane lighter in the fight.doesnt bother me really

Myself personally I don't do anything that isn't agreed upon by the duelers at the DA prior to flight, verbally and on film. I know BEs dueling bracket allowed for ammo dumping but in the normal informal duels I go strictly to merge alt and do not dump ammo unless agreed upon.

Do you guys do this whenever you guys go to the DA? I feel like it's kind of cheap if your not going to at least tell the person before hand so they can even up the fight.

Thoughts?

[croduh]

Spit V, 25%, cold merge, deck. Anything else is just fooling around

[FLOOB]

Depends on how high the other person feels he needs to be to gain the energy advantage.  In a duel against asbatt, he came in at 15k+ when we agreed to the merge alt being 8k.

ack-ack

Wasnt asbatt the guy who was always drunk? I hope he got help.

[mechanic]

Spit V, 25%, cold merge, deck. Anything else is just fooling around

Hey cro good to see you about man

[DmonSlyr]

just merge on the deck or set alt cap to meet. same planes with 25% fuel and same ammo load out.

there will be no HOing on any part of the fight.

anything goes upon that.

sometimes it is quite obvious if someone merges and they are going 60 knots faster than you. I can normally tell.

Where is the old DA when ya need it? Nowadays there is just no honor for 1 on 1 fights like there use to be. Hell I learned most of my ACM from constantly fighting Skyrock, Dedalos, and Bighorn. You just don't see much enthusiasm with new guys and wanting to learn how to really fight anymore.

EDIT: and don't forget batfink either

[kilz]

Can't remember... I think the last time I went 'dueling' in the DA was 2007 

 me too

[croduh]

Hey cro good to see you about man

Hi bat, yeah, we dueled a few weeks back in DA I think, I fly under the nick "gull" now (technically, my sub expired as we speak, but will resub it this week again).

[Krupinski]

If such a small advantage by another player frightens you, you shouldn't be in the DA... or even in a fighter plane in the first place. Just sayin'.

[JunkyII]

This guy....

Whaddup Krupski

[waystin2]

If such a small advantage by another player frightens you, you shouldn't be in the DA... or even in a fighter plane in the first place. Just sayin'.

I ain't fraid of of no Krupizzle.   Wazzzzupp Krup! 

[danny76]

Had some great fights with Krupinski, out turning anything I brought in a wheels down Corsair

There are a few guys who will give you a proper stand up fight, Batfink, Krup, Copprhed, Shida to name but a few. 

Many guys who used to be an entertaining scrap have changed their tactics with the influx of score centric players. Maxous for example would always be a great fight, now for whatever reason he will, ho and pick and happilly clear your 12 o'clock if on your side.

[kano]

I had a few fights with batfink and surfinn a week or so back. From my films surfinn always stuck to alt cap, didn't HO and we had some real good fights with him winning most of them.

Im by no means a good dueller but considered these fights to be amongst some the best ive had hes bloody good in that FM2 and our i16 vs emil fight lasted six and a half minutes before he augered just as he had me.

EatG