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Offline J.A.W.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #675 on: December 16, 2013, 06:19:32 PM »
The OP asked what we thought was the best heavy fighter in the game.   I gave my opinion and a few reasons behind it..   Stop being a such a tard.   

Thank you and good luck.

Well, - you were tardy.. ..L.O.L...

& Bodenplatte was a big 'heavy fighter' action don't you know, all the best ETO types were there..
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #676 on: December 16, 2013, 06:27:32 PM »
Well, - you were tardy.. ..L.O.L...

& Bodenplatte was a big 'heavy fighter' action don't you know, all the best ETO types were there..

L. O. L.   No.   I was here before you.   Therefore,  -  I win.

& what's the deal with the excessive dash and -  ampersand usage? 
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #677 on: December 16, 2013, 06:37:13 PM »
L. O. L.   No.   I was here before you.   Therefore,  -  I win.

& what's the deal with the excessive dash and -  ampersand usage? 

I think that this should be:

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J., L. O. L... No.. - I was here before you.. 

& Therefore.. -  I win..

& what's the deal with the excessive dash..

& -  ampersand [and brackets and pseudoellipses] usage?..

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #678 on: December 16, 2013, 06:38:26 PM »
FYI - '&' was once a - genuine & respected - symbol..
& member of the ABC line-up - when back in the day - kids rote learned it..


If that's of any interest to the - thread hi-jacking - punctuation police.. ..L.O.L...
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #679 on: December 16, 2013, 07:08:31 PM »
FYI - '&' was once a - genuine & respected - symbol..
& member of the ABC line-up - when back in the day - kids rote learned it..


If that's of any interest to the - thread hi-jacking - punctuation police.. ..L.O.L...

Oh. So that's why you're doing it?  To return us all to a time when the ampersand was loved and respected?  I kinda figured it was just some edgy writing style I didn't know was edgy, - or something. 

& with that, I bid you adieu, - for now. 
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #680 on: December 16, 2013, 07:15:03 PM »
Oh. So that's why you're doing it?  To return us all to a time when the ampersand was loved and respected?  I kinda figured it was just some edgy writing style I didn't know was edgy, - or something. 

& with that, I bid you adieu, - for now. 

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #681 on: December 16, 2013, 07:28:24 PM »
Spurdle ordered a section scramble for airfield defence & climbed into his own Tempest..

"...on taking off my wind-shield got covered in oil - someone hadn't cleaned out weepage trapped in the spinner... I was furious at having to abort,
 &  even more so when the others returned after a hectic hour.
They had intercepted some 190's at tree-top height & 'Judy' ( F/O J.W. Garland) had shot 2 down in flames."

&,

"From prisoner interrogation we learned that Volkel was to have been hit by a force of 90 machines,
but due to a fluke only 4 or 5 arrived & they continued on to Eindhoven where almost complete
carnage  wiped out the Canadian, Polish & 124 Wing's planes."

scuttlebutt

garland is not listed in the claims by 83 Group

and more scuttlebutt

material losses
#438 - 4
#439 - 7
#440 - 13
#400 - 11
#414 - 5
#430 - 10

no Polish squadrons at B-78

#137 - 3 (including 1 Hurricane)
#181 - 1
#182 - 13
#247 - 6
#168 - 2

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #682 on: December 16, 2013, 08:31:29 PM »
Yeah well m.m.  its certainly true that memoir written from memory can make factual errors..

But some of Spurdle's stuff is straight from his log-book, as written at the time..

& for sure, you weren't there..

For all you know m.m., 'Judy's' claims might've been credited to flak..

There were instances of Allied flak units being given claim precedence - for 'morale' reasons..

Historians - years after the fact-  & even official service-written historical documents can get things wrong too..

Especially if there is a downright embarrassing episode that needs a cover-up..

There are Brit WW2 documents - that are still hidden - under the 100 year rule too.

A lovely bit of bogus 'struck off-charge' paper-work bumf - is just the ticket - to hide the true situation..

Just look up the Allied B.S./Secrecy cover-up over another embarrassingly damaging LW air attack,
that on Bari, in Italy a bit over a year earlier..

Or the false loss reports written & applied to  'friendly-fire' incidents & covert ops - that went bad..

Not so much 'fog of war' .. as deliberate  B.S./smokescreen..

As evidence for one of his experiences,  -an HO attack that put a hole through one his Spit's prop blades..
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Ol' Bob kept the blade, to show anyone who called 'scuttlebutt'/B.S. on him about it..

Last I saw it, it was in the Kiwi Fighter Pilot Museum in Wanaka, NZ...
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #683 on: December 16, 2013, 09:45:07 PM »
& FYI, m.m.,

 On 1-1-45,  F/O J.W. J. ['Judy'] Garland,
flying Tempest W2-B (EJ 774) of 80 Squadron, 122 Wing 2nd TAF, RAF,
was indeed,  awarded a victory claim  - for an FW 190 shot down 15 miles north of Munster..
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #684 on: December 17, 2013, 07:24:33 AM »
Munster is no where near Eindoven.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #685 on: December 17, 2013, 08:59:32 AM »
Munster is no where near Eindoven.
They are both in Europe, aren't they?
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #686 on: December 17, 2013, 09:51:12 AM »
131 Wing (Polish) with #302, #308 and #317 was at B-61 and came out on the positive, 25:19.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #687 on: December 17, 2013, 10:14:10 AM »
Attack on Bari was the best executed bomb-attack Germans did from 1943 on, and with JU88s only.
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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #688 on: December 17, 2013, 02:39:29 PM »
On 1-1-45,  F/O J.W. J. ['Judy'] Garland,
flying Tempest W2-B (EJ 774) of 80 Squadron, 122 Wing 2nd TAF, RAF,
was indeed,  awarded a victory claim  - for an FW 190 shot down 15 miles north of Munster..

Garland's claim of 2 Dora 9s was not part of the Bodenplatte battle.

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Re: Best Heavy Fighter
« Reply #689 on: December 17, 2013, 06:58:31 PM »
Attack on Bari was the best executed bomb-attack Germans did from 1943 on, and with JU88s only.

There is also the raid on Corsica in May 1944.
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