Memorial Day B29 flight

[caldera]

Didn't the last B-29 memorial flight bomb somebody's HQ?  Seems like major league dbaggery to request not to be fired upon and them bomb the crap out of someone from 30k.

[Lusche]

Didn't the last B-29 memorial flight bomb somebody's HQ?

totally obliterated the strats of one country.

From my perspective:

I just had logged on I think and saw that huge enemy darbar creeping towards our strats on TAGMA (large map). Obviously a strat raid! I upped my 262 and followed country chat (not being tuned to 200). At some point, the only reliable intel was that it's being an escorted B-29 raid. Even alt and position updates were unclear, as it often is. There was a rumor that this was to be an memorial raid, but many others denied this, after they allegedly had been shot at. Who really shot first, them or us? Nobody really knew. Then they reached the strats and obliterated them.

Not having read about it on the BBS (I don't read every single thread here every day), I was at this point totally convinced that this "memorial run" thing was fake. Who in the world would do a peaceful "memorial run" to an enemy country's strats, at 25K in B-29 and carrying a full compliment of bombs? Why not at least jettison the bombs and NOT flying to the single most critical target on the whole map?

To this day I still don't know if it was meant to be a "guns cold" memorial mission, or a combat memorial mission. But what I do know how chaotic it was, and how extremely ugly the mud slinging was on all channels after that ("no longer have ANY respect for you" and stuff like this)

[caldera]

Not having read about it on the BBS (I don't read every single thread here every day), I was at this point totally convinced that this "memorial run" thing was fake. Who in the world would do a peaceful "memorial run" to an enemy country's strats, at 25K in B-29 and carrying a full compliment of bombs? Why not at least jettison the bombs and NOT flying to the single most critical target on the whole map?

If it was legit, they would have dumped their bombs on the runway and maybe did a low altitude route across bases in the center of the map, for all countries to join.

[FLS]

A memorial flight is not a memorial raid. If somebody called off resistance for a memorial flight in the MA and bombed targets they should face consequences. If it's a memorial raid they should be attacked.

[Lusche]

A memorial flight is not a memorial raid. If somebody called off resistance for a memorial flight in the MA and bombed targets they should face consequences.

The line of argumentation I saw was "you attacked the memorial flight first, so we had the right to bomb". Even if that was true (which I dont know), I'd still say that bringing a fully armed memorial flight to the enemy strats is either dishonest or (more probably) dumb.

In the end this doesn't matter because my my point, as elaborated in my first post above: The MA is not place for a memorial flight at all. It's just asking for trouble. Memorial raids? Yes, very much so.
For a memorial flight, use an arena like TA or SEA, in both arenas you can also get help by players with arena administrative powers to ensure it all works out.

[FLS]

I agree Lusche.  Flying England to France in SEA  would be a nice event.

[guncrasher]

I was in a memorial flight a couple of months ago and we had lots of players from other countries join us, a few flew with us then decided to attack us, the word was passed that no matter what we were to not shoot back.  I saw one of our players line up on an enemy 190 who was just flying along and missed the shot and the 190 killed him in about 3 seconds, we congratulated the enemy 190 and he flew with us without any more incident.

at the end we all in country passed the word that we were going to bail and give all the enemy players a good laugh while landing proxies.  some guys landed 15+ and it was awesome.

then we gave the word on 200 that that we were doing a memorial raid to the nearest field and all were welcome to stop us.  we took the field completely but noticed 2 or 3 players that were flying with us in the memorial flight but hadnt landed yet at the same airfield.  we let them land just within seconds of us taking the field.  it was an awesome memorial flight.


semp

[Threeup]

I'll never understand how people think a cartoon airplane formation honors people that died in real wars.
If you want to honor them do something real in their honor. Like take gifts to a VA hospital or take
flags and place them on the graves of veterans. Or do something for your community in their honor.
Like organizing a park cleanup or cematary cleanup. Sitting on your arse playing the same game you
play day after day but saying your doing it for them on this one day seems a bit hollow and a cop out to me.

Cynical, but dripping with truth. Well written.

[Dragon Tamer]

I think that if something like this were happening in the MA then fighters would be better than bombers. A bomber is too much temptation (especially B-29s) and a flock of fighters would be a bit more intimidating to would be attackers.

[Mongoose]

I'll never understand how people think a cartoon airplane formation honors people that died in real wars.

  We are flying in cartoon airplanes because flying these planes is fun....when you don't risk the chance of dying for real. 

   A memorial flight is our way of acknowledging that there were those who did this for real.  They flew for real.  They fought for real.  They died for real.  Flying this flight simulator has given me a new respect for those who did it for real.  I have no chance to fly a real airplane in a memorial flight.  So I will have to settle for flying a simulated airplane as a real salute to those who died for real.

   I think it is a fitting tribute.

[Mongoose]

   Coalcat, I agree that this would probably work better in the TA.  We wouldn't have to switch sides, and less chance of interference.

[Shifty]

  We are flying in cartoon airplanes because flying these planes is fun....when you don't risk the chance of dying for real. 

   A memorial flight is our way of acknowledging that there were those who did this for real.  They flew for real.  They fought for real.  They died for real.  Flying this flight simulator has given me a new respect for those who did it for real.  I have no chance to fly a real airplane in a memorial flight.  So I will have to settle for flying a simulated airplane as a real salute to those who died for real.

   I think it is a fitting tribute.

To play pretend is a fitting tribute? I don't agree, but knock yourself out.

[Vraciu]

To play pretend is a fitting tribute? I don't agree, but knock yourself out.

CAF would disagree.  But I see your point in this case.

[kvuo75]

I wont attack or participate in any such flight because of the last b29 memorial flight for some reason was carrying bombs.

do a C202 memorial flight instead.

[captain1ma]

or you could do it in the AVA, where the staff would make sure that no one attacked and you could drop your bombs to your hearts content! its all about options. The AVA can take up to 500 players, so theres no shortage of space.... only one country would be open to fly. that eliminates attacks.