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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2015, 02:57:12 PM »
Might be a bit of work, but I'd love to see a scenario where the starting position, conditions, and objectives being determined by the outcome of the previous frame.

Or give each side a reinforcement pool, which determines how many sorties are available, with the CO having discretion on when and where to use them.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2015, 03:57:22 PM »
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Might be a bit of work, but I'd love to see a scenario where the starting position, conditions, and objectives being determined by the outcome of the previous frame.

Or give each side a reinforcement pool, which determines how many sorties are available, with the CO having discretion on when and where to use them.
This is exactly what I am considering when we talk about  "game board" style of event.
The planes would be era specific, changing with each frame as the war progresses, and dependent on the prior frames successes or failures.
This would not be a historically accurate event, it would be an actual war that the players would control based on their own actions and outcomes.  The only historical accuracy would be around the map and planes that they started with.
Absolutely worth the work.
The hourly start times could even be worked into a multi frame event instead of one or two lives, making sure there was the ability to participate through the entirety of the event.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2015, 05:47:53 PM »
The 12 hour scenario was by far the most populated special event ive been in.

You clearly haven't been around long :)
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2015, 05:49:15 PM »
Easter front PLEASE

Battle of the Bunnies?   He's still around here isn't he? :)
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2015, 08:59:38 PM »
This is exactly what I am considering when we talk about  "game board" style of event.
The planes would be era specific, changing with each frame as the war progresses, and dependent on the prior frames successes or failures.
This would not be a historically accurate event, it would be an actual war that the players would control based on their own actions and outcomes.  The only historical accuracy would be around the map and planes that they started with.
Absolutely worth the work.
The hourly start times could even be worked into a multi frame event instead of one or two lives, making sure there was the ability to participate through the entirety of the event.

I would gladly donate my time to help if at all possible.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2015, 09:27:57 PM »
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What do you think of something similar to last Pacific War but at Eastern Front. We have very nice set of VVS planes that have never participated in the scenarios: Yak-7b, Yak-3, I-16, Tu-2 - we need to use them...

Frame I: Operation Barbarossa  1941

- I-16, IL-2, T-34/76, Limited Yak-7b(*)
- 109E-4, Ju-87D-3, Bf-110, He-111, Ju-88, Panzer IV (short barrel version) Limited Bf-109F-4 (**)

LW Objective - destroy a set of VVS airbases, capture a set of V Bases
VVS Objective - damage LW, prevent from LW to gain air superiority

Frame 2: Stalingrad 1942/43

- Yak-7b, Yak-9T, I-16, IL-2; T-34/76, A-20, B-25, Limited: Hurricane, P-40B, La-5
- Bf-109F, Bf-109E, Bf-110, Ju-87D, He-111, Ju-88, Panzer IV, Limited 109G2

Frame 3: Kursk 1943

- Yak-9T, La-5, IL-2, P-39Q, A-20, B-25; T-34/76, Limited: P-40
- 109G2/6, Fw-190A5, Bf-110, Ju-87D, Panzer IV, Tiger I

Frame 4: Fall of Berlin 1945 (or other late war operation)

- Yak-9U, Yak-3, La-7, La-5, IL-2, Tu-2, B-25, T-34-85
- 109G14/K4, 190D/F, Me-262, Panzers, Tigers



(*) Yak-7b is good substitute to Yak-1. Note: Yak-1 is actually superior to Yak-7 in terms of performance having higher power/mass ratio.
(**) 109F-4 has more powerful engine in comparison to 109F-2 that was common at Eastern front.

Far too linear.

Reason: German's win Frame one.  Now what?  There wouldn't be a Frame 2 if Germany wins.  Or, maybe there would be?  It would highly depend on what the map looks like after Operation Barbarossa, despite the German Victory. :headscratch:
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2015, 09:09:52 AM »
Far too linear.

Reason: German's win Frame one.  Now what?  There wouldn't be a Frame 2 if Germany wins.  Or, maybe there would be?  It would highly depend on what the map looks like after Operation Barbarossa, despite the German Victory. :headscratch:

1st of all Historically, Luftwaffe won the "1st" frame - the initial step was total success destroying most of VVS. But it may be different in AH.

"Best" plane does not always win. See BoB - Hurricane was significantly less efficient than 109E so? Most of the work was done by Hurricanes.

Zero is much better than F4F, so? See what happened in Pacific War scenario?

Actually I-16 is quite close in terms of performance to Hurricane I. But has somewhat better ammo. Pilots who flew both I-16 and Hurricane preferred I-16, also Hurricane had better radio and was more comfortable. (I'll try to find the reference)

One of the reasons that VVS was wiped out in first days is that they were completely unprepared.

So I wouldn't be so sure of LW victory

Also I wouldn't connect frames strongly I'd go to something that was during Pacific War scenario.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2015, 09:14:47 AM »
I-16 vs 109E is not a very uneven fight in AH.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2015, 12:13:05 PM »
Probably not gonna happen but I'd like to see some more stuff like close air support (train, tank, convoy killing) type things.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2015, 12:19:01 PM »
Probably not gonna happen but I'd like to see some more stuff like close air support (train, tank, convoy killing) type things.

Me too.

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« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2015, 12:27:11 PM »
Think it would be cool to have some defensive situations like a couple tanks and some 88s defending a town or field and have an advancing horde of mixed GVs attacking the position. You could introduce some interesting stuff like Storch spotting enemy and calling in air strikes with a small compliment of defending aircraft trying to shoot down tank busters. Guys in M3s trying to keep tanks on the battle field. A few M16s and wirbs thrown in.
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2015, 12:58:26 PM »
Been meaning to read this thread, glad I did.

I would be willing to run BOB 12 hour, if everyone who was involved in TFT steps up and helps out again, and we get some more help from my CM team with the setup and admin duties.

Im super busy with real life atm, just could use a hand.

There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2015, 01:24:55 PM »
Heres a thought, (not a complete scenario idea and maybe impossible with terrains as they are,) what about train, convoy, ship destruction as an important part of strategy for an event. Maybe a North Atlantic scenario with HE 111 as a substitute for condors and a20's for beaufighters, only sea hurricanes on the ships. Actually this sounds contrived. Maybe Norway, British fleets protected by fighters out of Britain.
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« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2015, 01:26:45 PM »
Whatever is needed for the 12 hour BoB....hit me up... :rock
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Re: Upcoming Scenario Format - Your Opportunity To Weigh In
« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2015, 04:17:04 PM »
12 Hour scenario during football season(American) would be best for me personally!

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