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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2015, 12:04:24 AM »
I understand the point. Some people think the ammo bunker should not be strafe-able because that's too easy.

I'm guessing Hitech is aware of the complaints and disagrees. Just guessing though.  :D

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2015, 07:50:11 AM »
Ord bunkers will not live longer if rockets or bomb were needed to take them down...
Not exactly harder to take them down w rockets.
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2015, 12:20:32 PM »
Ord bunkers will not live longer if rockets or bomb were needed to take them down...
Not exactly harder to take them down w rockets.

Ya-but it might stop the single pass that takes both ords out on a single pass on a small field.  Kind of set up like grouping your planes on the ground in case of an attack.

I can do a twofer as well like the VH and the radar on one pass.

Of course the other side of the coin is you leave damage level alone but shorten the down time to fifteen minutes.

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2015, 12:48:30 PM »
Ya-but it might stop the single pass that takes both ords out on a single pass on a small field.  Kind of set up like grouping your planes on the ground in case of an attack.

I can do a twofer as well like the VH and the radar on one pass.

Of course the other side of the coin is you leave damage level alone but shorten the down time to fifteen minutes.
I disagree...  My preferred method is to take a Tiffy with 2, 1K bombs and drop the Ords on one pass with the bombs.  If it's a Medium field, I do the same, cannoning down the remaining two. 

Hardening the Ords bunker will only change how they are killed, not the frequency with which they ARE killed.  As this isn't the "wishlist" forum, my opinion is the ord situation is just fine, and falls into the "perk the LA" bucket of requests, not necessary. 
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2015, 01:00:12 PM »
There is a fairly well known piece of gun cam footage taken where an ammo train explodes and you can see what happens to the plane closest.  Needless to say it was gun cam from the trailing plane not the one that disappears in the explosion

I think I've seen that. It was, IIRC, a group of Jugs doing a bit of a shoot and scoot. The alt of the flying debris is truly impressive.
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2015, 01:48:30 PM »
I disagree...  My preferred method is to take a Tiffy with 2, 1K bombs and drop the Ords on one pass with the bombs.  If it's a Medium field, I do the same, cannoning down the remaining two. 

Hardening the Ords bunker will only change how they are killed, not the frequency with which they ARE killed.  As this isn't the "wishlist" forum, my opinion is the ord situation is just fine, and falls into the "perk the LA" bucket of requests, not necessary.

That's is what the OP is asking, he would like to see a change in HOW the ords are dropped. In your case for a medium field you would need a wingman to help finsh the ord. Make sense  as a bigger field should take more guys.

More guys, or maybe a couple passes, or less speed to aim with bombs all add up to more of a chance to defend against the attack. If people don't bother to defend because  the attack is not defendable you will have less people willing to defend and so less fights. Funny how it all kinda fits together.

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2015, 02:32:46 PM »
That's is what the OP is asking, he would like to see a change in HOW the ords are dropped. In your case for a medium field you would need a wingman to help finsh the ord. Make sense  as a bigger field should take more guys.

More guys, or maybe a couple passes, or less speed to aim with bombs all add up to more of a chance to defend against the attack. If people don't bother to defend because  the attack is not defendable you will have less people willing to defend and so less fights. Funny how it all kinda fits together.
Fair enough, but on a small field, two 1K bombs takes out ords in one pass, which is what his complaint was (one pass ords down)
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2015, 03:18:22 PM »
Fair enough, but on a small field, two 1K bombs takes out ords in one pass, which is what his complaint was (one pass ords down)

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2015, 04:08:55 PM »
I could be wrong.  I have been many times in the past.
I believe the OP's complaint was being able to take down a bunker with bullets.
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2015, 04:51:14 PM »
Here is a proposal. Make the ords bunkers hardenable by resupplying bunkers that aren't down. So if say a field is resupplied by a player any up bunker is hardened and is only damageable by bombs, ship 5" or 8", and main gun of a tank, for 90 minutes.

Allows a form of defense but still allows strafing down bunkers that aren't hardened.
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2015, 07:09:36 PM »
Probably throwing fuel on the fire here...but what about a secondary blast / blast radius that when the ord. bunker is destroyed it would be the equvielant of about 50,000 lbs of HE going off at once?

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2015, 07:13:51 PM »
Probably throwing fuel on the fire here...but what about a secondary blast / blast radius that when the ord. bunker is destroyed it would be the equvielant of about 50,000 lbs of HE going off at once?

Nice! Aversion therapy for strafers.
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2015, 04:27:32 AM »
Probably throwing fuel on the fire here...but what about a secondary blast / blast radius that when the ord. bunker is destroyed it would be the equvielant of about 50,000 lbs of HE going off at once?

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Only 50,000lbs ? :evil:
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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2015, 05:51:53 AM »
Probably throwing fuel on the fire here...but what about a secondary blast / blast radius that when the ord. bunker is destroyed it would be the equvielant of about 50,000 lbs of HE going off at once?

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Re: Porking. Needs to be changed.
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2015, 07:45:11 AM »
Probably throwing fuel on the fire here...but what about a secondary blast / blast radius that when the ord. bunker is destroyed it would be the equvielant of about 50,000 lbs of HE going off at once?

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Now that would be cool.  Make too low of pass and your caught in a huge explosion.   And maybe  the green chasing down the red.  Ouch on that.