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« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2015, 11:26:41 PM »
Its not bad. Just rather plain for a performance car.

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« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2015, 12:51:41 AM »
  :rofl    Please pass what you are smoking.

Just my usual camels.

Looking at a side profile, nothing outstanding, nothing horrible. Front needs to either taper back more, or get blockier for the aggressive look they're clearly trying for.

Should probably continue out the curve starting at the front door panel extending over the rear fenders, rather than having it flatten out. Or add a low profile spoiler.


Front grill and lights is atrocious, but the only thing that could be called ugly in an sense of the word.
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« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2015, 02:55:12 AM »
Just my usual camels.

Looking at a side profile, nothing outstanding, nothing horrible. Front needs to either taper back more, or get blockier for the aggressive look they're clearly trying for.

Should probably continue out the curve starting at the front door panel extending over the rear fenders, rather than having it flatten out. Or add a low profile spoiler.


Front grill and lights is atrocious, but the only thing that could be called ugly in an sense of the word.



you will not find a bigger MOPAR fan then I...period.



that car is absolutely ugly...... and to put the name of Cuda/Barracuda on it.... is a disgrace to the original...

same as the horrid charger. :aok

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« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2015, 07:06:08 AM »


you will not find a bigger MOPAR fan then I...period.



that car is absolutely ugly...... and to put the name of Cuda/Barracuda on it.... is a disgrace to the original...

same as the horrid charger. :aok

With you on that 100%.  The original Charger/Road Runner, Challenger/Cuda cars were a few of the best looking and baddest on the road in the late 60's, early 70's. 

What Chrysler has done to the Charger should be a crime.  If they do that 'Cuda',...I think it would time to get a rope!!
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« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2015, 11:49:02 AM »
Just because it doesn't look like old school MOPAR doesn't mean it looks ugly, you dummies. It means it looks different, and probably that your age is showing.

I guarantee that (assuming they last long enough) millenials will lament the awful look of sportscars in about 30 years, will be pining for the "golden age" of the 2000's and 2010's.

And my grandkids will no doubt think of your vaunted hemis the same way I look at a model T. They'll probably think it performs about as well, too.
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« Reply #80 on: August 28, 2015, 12:08:32 PM »
Just because it doesn't look like old school MOPAR doesn't mean it looks ugly, you dummies. It means it looks different, and probably that your age is showing.

I guarantee that (assuming they last long enough) millenials will lament the awful look of sportscars in about 30 years, will be pining for the "golden age" of the 2000's and 2010's.

And my grandkids will no doubt think of your vaunted hemis the same way I look at a model T. They'll probably think it performs about as well, too.

Uh, no.  Age has nothing to do with this, other than the older folks get the chance to own one of those really good looking versions of the name sakes.

Look, they paid proper homage to the original Challenger.  Go look at a 69 Charger.  Do you really think the new Charger looks better than a Charger could have looked if they drew from the 69 model?  Use your imagination.  Chrysler dropped the ball in a big way.

There are cars which transcend all ages.  They are called classics.  When a company pays proper homage to those cars, it is magic.  Yes, us old folks have a memory of those old cars and all of us would like to see proper homage paid to them.

Regardless of the names used, the new Charger and this new propose Cuda are both butt ugly cars, as far as I am concerned.  They are boring to look at.  The lines and proportions wreak of something my Grandmother would use to go get the groceries, at night, so she would not be seen in it.
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« Reply #81 on: August 28, 2015, 12:30:24 PM »
Uh, no.  Age has nothing to do with this, other than the older folks get the chance to own one of those really good looking versions of the name sakes.

Look, they paid proper homage to the original Challenger.  Go look at a 69 Charger.  Do you really think the new Charger looks better than a Charger could have looked if they drew from the 69 model?  Use your imagination.  Chrysler dropped the ball in a big way.

There are cars which transcend all ages.  They are called classics.  When a company pays proper homage to those cars, it is magic.  Yes, us old folks have a memory of those old cars and all of us would like to see proper homage paid to them.

Regardless of the names used, the new Charger and this new propose Cuda are both butt ugly cars, as far as I am concerned.  They are boring to look at.  The lines and proportions wreak of something my Grandmother would use to go get the groceries, at night, so she would not be seen in it.



Skuzzy consider the source.  This is the same one who stated the Challenger would get slaughtered on the track after the Challenger won the T/A series.

We are older yes, but we have skads more experience and knowledge of these autos then the Tweeting, Texting, cell phone is life generation.

That in no way will ever be a Barracuda.  Can't be, it looks lousy. Dodge never did make a Barracuda did they?  I guess they are into cramming the European look onto American cars.

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« Reply #82 on: August 28, 2015, 12:51:14 PM »
That is one of the odd things.  The Barracuda was the Plymouth version of the Challenger, but if you go back before there was a Challenger, you will find a very distinctive car in the Cuda and they could tear up a track.

The evolution of the Dodge/Plymouth line was interesting.  If you look at the 67/68/69 Cuda, you can see a lot of Charger in that design.  The in 70 it got merged into the Challenger line, but the front end still appears to ave come from the earlier Cuda's.

It was fun to watch that, unless they pulled up beside you at the line.  All of them were scary fast and always made me shift a tick quicker, float the front end a little higher, and sweat a little bit more.

You always respected Mopar at the line.
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« Reply #83 on: August 28, 2015, 01:09:26 PM »
Uh, no.  Age has nothing to do with this, other than the older folks get the chance to own one of those really good looking versions of the name sakes.

Look, they paid proper homage to the original Challenger.  Go look at a 69 Charger.  Do you really think the new Charger looks better than a Charger could have looked if they drew from the 69 model?  Use your imagination.  Chrysler dropped the ball in a big way.

There are cars which transcend all ages.  They are called classics.  When a company pays proper homage to those cars, it is magic.  Yes, us old folks have a memory of those old cars and all of us would like to see proper homage paid to them.

Regardless of the names used, the new Charger and this new propose Cuda are both butt ugly cars, as far as I am concerned.  They are boring to look at.  The lines and proportions wreak of something my Grandmother would use to go get the groceries, at night, so she would not be seen in it.


cant really add to this.... :aok


That is one of the odd things.  The Barracuda was the Plymouth version of the Challenger, but if you go back before there was a Challenger, you will find a very distinctive car in the Cuda and they could tear up a track.

The evolution of the Dodge/Plymouth line was interesting.  If you look at the 67/68/69 Cuda, you can see a lot of Charger in that design.  The in 70 it got merged into the Challenger line, but the front end still appears to ave come from the earlier Cuda's.

It was fun to watch that, unless they pulled up beside you at the line.  All of them were scary fast and always made me shift a tick quicker, float the front end a little higher, and sweat a little bit more.

You always respected Mopar at the line.

you have it mixed up First was the Barracuda...then the Cuda'

 AAR Cuda and The TA Challenger the first year was 70...for the Trans Am racing circuit (which I am sure you know)







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« Reply #84 on: August 28, 2015, 01:24:30 PM »
Okay ink, I was just using a short cut name.  Barracuda, Cuda,...potato, potato.... :)

Yes, I was not being as technically accurate as I should have been.  My bad.
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« Reply #85 on: August 28, 2015, 02:20:24 PM »
Just because it doesn't look like old school MOPAR doesn't mean it looks ugly, you dummies.

I'm not a dummy because I think it is Ugly.  "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".  It means that one man's opinion on beauty has no more value or no less value than another's.  It is horribly ugly.  I do not like the new Chargers either but even they, in my opinion are not quite as ugly.  Part of the reason, in my opinion, that they are both ugly is because a 4 door is harder to make pleasing to me.
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« Reply #86 on: August 28, 2015, 02:22:13 PM »
Okay ink, I was just using a short cut name.  Barracuda, Cuda,...potato, potato.... :)

Yes, I was not being as technically accurate as I should have been.  My bad.

no biggie...

(I wasn't being obtuse :()



you would have liked a buddy of mines 69 Barracuda...had a 340 that he swore could tack 8k all day long....

having owned the 340 I wouldn't doubt it.


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« Reply #87 on: August 28, 2015, 02:45:12 PM »
The 340 was a sweet motor.  I had a chance to buy a 69 Challenger with a 340 and 4 speed.  I really wanted that car, but settled for the 69 Road Runner with a 383 and 4 speed.  Well,..settled is not quite the right word. :)

The 340 set standards which are still in use today.  It taught Ford and GM a lot about high performance small blocks.  If I recall correctly, from 68 to 71 it came from the factory with a forged steel crankshaft and forged and shot peen rods as well.

The 70 and 71 blocks were altered to increase the crankshaft WEB strength and could be drilled and tapped for 4 bolt mains.  Again, I am working from memory here, so call me on it if I am wrong.

Back in 69 I had three hot rods.  Two Fords and one Plymouth.  All of them were fast, but I liked the Road Runner best simply due to the sound (and it did not hurt it was also the quickest).  Sweetest sounding engines were all made by Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth, back in the day.
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« Reply #88 on: August 28, 2015, 02:52:40 PM »
The 340 was a sweet motor.  I had a chance to buy a 69 Challenger with a 340 and 4 speed.  I really wanted that car, but settled for the 69 Road Runner with a 383 and 4 speed.  Well,..settled is not quite the right word. :)

The 340 set standards which are still in use today.  It taught Ford and GM a lot about high performance small blocks.

Back in 69 I had three hot rods.  Two Fords and one Plymouth.  All of them were fast, but I liked the Road Runner best simply due to the sound (and it did not hurt it was also the quickest).  Sweetest sounding engines were all made by Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth, back in the day.


I assume you meant 70...but ya man....that's a hard choice...

I would have took the Challenger...the Road runner's were awesome....but I just Love the look and lines of the challenger...


the old man had a 69 Charger with the 383....he said it was by far the fastest car he ever had...I took out a RR with the 383...and damn that thing was nice...but when I took it back and got in my Challenger...ya baby thats the baddest of the bad :D


damn I miss that car :(

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« Reply #89 on: August 28, 2015, 02:57:10 PM »

I assume you meant 70...but ya man....that's a hard choice...

I would have took the Challenger...the Road runner's were awesome....but I just Love the look and lines of the challenger...


the old man had a 69 Charger with the 383....he said it was by far the fastest car he ever had...I took out a RR with the 383...and damn that thing was nice...but when I took it back and got in my Challenger...ya baby thats the baddest of the bad :D


damn I miss that car :(

You are right.  It was in 69, but a 70 model year car.

I loved the Challenger.  My Dad was opposed to ti though.  He thought I might end up killing myself in it.

You have to remember, I was still in high school when I had these three hot rods.  So, I got a nice family car.  The Road Runner. :D 

Of course, after I got through, it had three deuces, headers, mallory ignition,  forged TRW pistons, and a nice Crane cam in it, just to name a few of the changes.  It was a nice high 10 second car when I was done. :)
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