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Offline Bino

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2015, 08:52:03 AM »
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I am using Crosswinds rudder pedals.  They do not use pan-potentiometer technology and are remarkably smooth because of the magnetic sensor technology employed.  I have also used CH rudder pedals for a long time and have no trouble recommending them.
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The above applies to me as well. The Crosswinds feel much more controllable and smooth, but I certainly got years of good service from my old CH pedals.



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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2015, 01:12:55 PM »
okay thanks, so it sounds like there are  a few different good ones to choose from.

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2015, 01:28:12 AM »
The X55 setup is NOT made for small hands. My medium hands on a 6' body don't exactly fit well and it's not adjustable. Been looking at a workaround...
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 10:05:51 AM »
Thought I would throw this in from Skuzzy.

I had a telecom with him about my CH stick and rudder spiking a lot.  I bought mine about 3 years ago.  He told me he hasn't felt the systems from CH were ever the same since the company was sold prior to that date and that one of the best, if not THE best stick ever made was the Sidewinder series.  For whatever reason, they lasted forever and just never seemed to spike.

Now, I know two people who fly with those and who will continue to buy them, used, on the internet until they run out and one of them is Batfink.  The other, well, lets just say he posted a pic and gave away what he uses on an accident he isn't one to talk about his secrets.

Skuzzy can confirm the Sidewinder info vs the current CH systems
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 11:42:03 AM »
Thought I would throw this in from Skuzzy.

I had a telecom with him about my CH stick and rudder spiking a lot.  I bought mine about 3 years ago.  He told me he hasn't felt the systems from CH were ever the same since the company was sold prior to that date and that one of the best, if not THE best stick ever made was the Sidewinder series.  For whatever reason, they lasted forever and just never seemed to spike.

Now, I know two people who fly with those and who will continue to buy them, used, on the internet until they run out and one of them is Batfink.  The other, well, lets just say he posted a pic and gave away what he uses on an accident he isn't one to talk about his secrets.

Skuzzy can confirm the Sidewinder info vs the current CH systems

I've posted several times that I use a Microsoft Force Feedback 2. There's never been any secrecy about it.
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2015, 12:26:11 PM »
I've posted several times that I use a Microsoft Force Feedback 2. There's never been any secrecy about it.

Lordy, Lordy LMAO!  Who said I was talking about you?  W.O.W.  There were actually players here that thought they'd discovered secrets long before you and I got here.  You do know that right? lol.  There are plenty of mouths running about secrets they don't share.  You actually don't need to look far to find them...but to just outright assume I was talking about you? lol.  ok.
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2015, 12:47:40 PM »
Lordy, Lordy LMAO!  Who said I was talking about you?  W.O.W.  There were actually players here that thought they'd discovered secrets long before you and I got here.  You do know that right? lol.  There are plenty of mouths running about secrets they don't share.  You actually don't need to look far to find them...but to just outright assume I was talking about you? lol.  ok.

I never actually said you were talking about me (your own reply goes both ways), did I? ;)

I don't even know what kind of controllers they use these days can I get any recommendations?

Back on topic, Microsoft FFB2 if you like the FFB sticks. Logitech's old FFB stick is good too, but it's expensive and doesn't last nearly as well as the MS sticks. The Logitech T1600 is similar in precision, if you want a new production stick. A lot of old MS stick users found the T1600 similar in feel.

The important thing is to get a stick and simply practice with it, focusing on ACM. Make a genuine effort to do that and you'll go far.
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2015, 12:58:46 PM »
is the T1600 made by logitech, I thought it was made by thrustmaster


Hmm.....

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2015, 01:36:48 PM »
is the T1600 made by logitech, I thought it was made by thrustmaster


Hmm.....

Good to see you are coming back, Kanth  :x  :cheers:


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It is made by Thrustmaster

http://www.thrustmaster.com/products/t16000m

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2015, 07:08:54 PM »
 :rofl :rofl :rofl Skyyr, you so FUNNY!
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2015, 03:15:34 PM »

Good to see you too TC, I'm trying to comeback..even landing is a challenge for me right now..
Once I get setup and practice I'm sure it'll come back to me :)

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is the T1600 made by logitech, I thought it was made by thrustmaster


Hmm.....

Good to see you are coming back, Kanth  :x  :cheers:


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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2015, 03:18:41 PM »

I couldn't agree more.  Thanks for your input. FFB freaks me out but good to hear what's out there.

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2015, 03:45:18 PM »
Good to know, I'll skip it. One thing training will not overcome is not being able to reach the buttons  :aok


The X55 setup is NOT made for small hands. My medium hands on a 6' body don't exactly fit well and it's not adjustable. Been looking at a workaround...
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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2015, 04:42:49 PM »
He told me he hasn't felt the systems from CH were ever the same since the company was sold prior to that date

I agree, ever since the Hayes family sold CH to some French industrial company, their commercial products just haven't been the same.  One thing we took care in when I worked at CH was the quality and QA was strict throughout the entire production process.  It doesn't seem that way anymore over there.  I'm glad that I have enough spare CH parts that I can easily rebuild mine whenever it dies.

I disagree with Skuzzy though on the "best force feedback" stick, it wasn't the MS Sidewinder II.  It was the CH Force FX joystick, it was a very stupid decision by CH to stop making that joystick because for some reason the higher ups felt that force feedback was just a fad and would be a waste of money to continue making force feedback sticks.  Because of the motors on the Force FX, feedback was far more pronounced than MS' FF stick, even though the Force FX used the older IForce 1.0 API and not MS' Force Factory API.

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Re: What's a good controller these days?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2015, 09:43:35 AM »
The X55 setup is NOT made for small hands. My medium hands on a 6' body don't exactly fit well and it's not adjustable. Been looking at a workaround...

For a big guy, I have short fingers.  I haven't had any discernible problems reaching anything with the X55 set up.  The toggle switches on the throttle require deliberate touches, of course, but a little advance planning while programming them prevents irritation.  That's my experience.  They are not made for children, that is for sure.

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